DSC Wireless Alarm System Integration to Vera - 2/2013

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[li]The ability to arm and check status remotely from your phone is brilliant.[/li]
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I plan to buy DSC 1832 and EVL-3. If I get Vera Lite, does it have all the features that comes with the free Eyez-On service? Getting text and email alert on alarm system breach is important for me. Thanks![/ul]

[quote=“johnfdl, post:98, topic:174399”]Step 14: Bridge Vera to DSC Alarm (using Envisalink and Plug-In)
So next step was to bridge my DSC panel to my Vera (using the Envisalink3). So I went into Vera UI5 and clicked Apps → Install Apps and DSC Alarm Panel Plug in (v .38 is what I have). It installed it and I had a bunch of devices show up in my devices:
DSC Alarm Panel
Partition 1
and Zones 1-6[/quote]

Hi, I read the entire thread and I am hoping to get some answers on using Vera with DSC 1832 via EVL-3.

I am assuming the Vera Lite box will need to be connected directly to the EVL-3 using a CAT5 cable in order to bridge between the two. But I thought the Vera Lite box also needs to connect to the home network router in order to allow remote control from smartphone. Where exactly should Vera Lite be connected to? And how can Vera Lite talk to DSC and the home network if it can only be connected to either EVL-3 or the home network router? I am getting ready to buy a DSC 1832, EVL-3, and Vera Lite system. Thanks!

Doesn’t need to be a direct connection. You just need a router with additional spare ports or a network switch, or some way to bridge wired to wireless if you cant use cables.

So you mean I can connect Vera to my router with cable and then connect EVL-3 with a wireless gaming adapter?

Or I can connect both Vera and EVL-3 to the router with cable? Meaning I will be okay as long as I get both the Vera Lite and EVL-3 on the same network?

The EVL-3 needs to be connected in some way to the same network as the Vera, whether it be by cable/wired or you could use a wireless bridge/homeplug/etc… as long as vera can ‘talk’ to the EVL-3 through your local network it should all work fine.

For example here is my setup, home it makes sense. I have shown the equipment used and what it is connected with.

Vera > Cat5e cable > Router/Switch > Cat5e cable > Gigabit switch > Cat5e cable > homeplug > power circuit > homeplug > Cat5e cable > Gigabit switch > Cat5e cable > EVL-3

Thanks, that helps. I will get the DSC 1832, Vera Lite, EVL-3, and other sensors and zwave gadgets. Thanks for the help.

Greetings and kudos to all the contributors from a newbie!

I feel I did a fair bit of reading, but am at the point where things are getting confusing, so apologies if below questions are redundant, or answered elsewhere, please bear with me and point me to the right direction. Thank you kindly!

I am planning on a very similar DSC hybrid system as most of you. For budgetary reasons, I am planning on a very simple setup to begin with, but with components not limiting expansion later. I want to start with 9 wired sensors (motion, door, smoke), a wired keypad with an EVL-3 and through time build up to 32 wired and wireless sensors when fully finished according to my plans as of right now.
I plan on controlling it -once set up- through vera lite 95% of the time and only very rarely from alarm keypads.
I have an apartment, with a separate garage, so I guess 2 partitions are due, but for start, the apartment only.

  1. My first dilemma is; to go with control panel 1832, or 1864? Is there a difference between the two control panels beyond the number of zones? Is it more complex and difficult to program the later? (I read somewhere, I think on diyalarmforum.com that the 1864 is much more difficult to set up…) If so, could You describe the difficulty difference? Also, need for nr of wired and wireless zones detailed in my 3rd question.

2.Since I want to have more than 8 wired sensors, as I understand, I would need a zone expander to be able to have each sensor on a separate zone. Is that a crazy idea? Shall I group more sensors on certain zones? I am thinking it would be beneficial to be able to see in vera, each sensor alone, for which I am assuming separate zones to be necessary.

  1. Second dilemma; which keypad to get and shall I get a TR5164-433, or not? I do not care for the keyfob and not sure about the second keypad in the garage to be wired or wireless. I could either go with a simple wired no RF keypad and with the TR5164-433, or with a higher end RF keypad, but I am not sure in terms of zones. So when the TR5164-433 description says 60 wireless zones, or a keypad says 64 zones, do they all have to support including the control panel the same amount of zones?
    In the garage I can go wired and wireless, no difference (beyond the obvious advantages disadvantages: running wires and the price) and that would be at a later stage, not now, only decision has to be made properly now.

  2. Which wired motion sensor would you recommend (no present or future pets) but I want to use them for light triggers in vera too.
    What is the best way to install them? Manuals say do not face big windows, but that contradicts professionally installed systems I have seen so far and I have big windows. Do I need to put the motion sensors on the same walls as the doors? I also have high ceilings (14’) in the living/dining room, shall I put them higher? What is optimal? It is a 11’*30’ room with a large balcony window door right opposite the entrance door, does it call for 2 motion sensors, or one will do fine?

Thank you for any and all help!

Hi All,

I have a question.
Can you program a DSC system without having a keypad?
If yes, why do I need a keypad for my alarm system, if it is connected to Vera? I understand that I can arm/disarm through my cell phone.

Thanks.

What happens when you walk in your house and Vera is acting up ?

[quote=“RichardTSchaefer, post:149, topic:174399”]What happens when you walk in your house and Vera is acting up ?[/quote]Give her a swift slap? :slight_smile:

Yes you can program an a alarm without the
Keypad but operationally is would not be a good idea at all. Minimum would expect at least a wireless keyfob to enable/disable. I have never even thought about this as an option especially in the middle of the night when it all goes pear shaped, a correctly placed keypad is very useful. Without a keypad it might be like letting England play cricket you just don’t get the results… Sometimes is might be a swing and miss!

[quote=“Brientim, post:151, topic:174399”]Without a keypad it might be like letting England play cricket you just don’t get the results…[/quote]We were doing pretty good for the last few years in the ashes (and most other sports)… well that’s until you guys started to threaten to break our thumbs etc :slight_smile:

Anyway… Back on topic! Yes, get a keypad ;D

Yes, that is why I used the moment to my advantage. It was and arm. All good sportsmanship and a good little bit sledging has been missed from the game for a long time.

[quote=“Brientim, post:151, topic:174399”]Yes you can program an a alarm without the
Keypad but operationally is would not be a good idea at all. Minimum would expect at least a wireless keyfob to enable/disable…[/quote]

Thank you for your response. What do I need to program without a keypad?
I am not going to install a siren. If alarm goes off, there will be no noise.
I am looking to install a minimal/cheap system, controllable by Vera.

You need the DLS software and a cable.

There is some good info about it all on this page:

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=5154.945

I’m not getting any trips on any of my wireless sensors from my DSC panel on my Vera3.

I have:
Vera3
DSC PC1864
DSC TR5164-433
EVL-3
PTK5507W Alarm Panel
3 x EV-DW4975

I’ve got the DSC app installed, but I’m getting no changes in Vera when a door sensor is tripped, I have tried them all set as door sensors and motion sensors, to no avail. I get no triggers (My green guy never becomes a running red fella.) Everything on the DSC side works fine and the zones are also properly labeled, though they never transferred to Vera.

I’ll attach some screen shots of my settings. Thanks so much for any and all help you are willing to offer.

Paul




Any errors listed in Veras status window?
Is there communication with the panel though… you can arm etc?

Did you set the DSC system up yourself? What are your actual zone numbers?

in your setup, I see you have 1,2,3, but do they correspond with whats actually programmed? At least the first 1-8 zones normally default as wired connections in the panel setup, and wireless zones would normally be added as higher numbers such as 9 and above (assuming no zone expander).

[quote=“strangely, post:157, topic:174399”]Any errors listed in Veras status window?
Is there communication with the panel though… you can arm etc?

Did you set the DSC system up yourself? What are your actual zone numbers?

in your setup, I see you have 1,2,3, but do they correspond with whats actually programmed? At least the first 1-8 zones normally default as wired connections in the panel setup, and wireless zones would normally be added as higher numbers such as 9 and above (assuming no zone expander).[/quote]
The zones do not correspond with the zone numbers on the DSC. I did set up the DSC myself, with some help from tech support (it was a touch overwhelming at first.) Those zones are 9, 10, 11. Do I need to change the zone numbers to that? I thought I read somewhere that they didn’t have to correspond, but maybe I’m imagining that and that’s why they’re not working.

I don’t see any errors in Vera, but I’m not positive how to check that. No, I can not arm, disarm, stay, etc. It says remote arm is not enabled. I’m assuming that’s because I have it turned off in the settings, but arming remotely from Vera isn’t really an option I need. I just want to be able to set up scenes off the DSC sensors. I can use my remote EyezOn portal to remotely arm/disarm when I need.

Thanks for the timely response!

Paul

EDIT: Just renamed the zones to 9,10,11 and it works. That was the problem! Thanks again so much!

You must input the zone numbers that correspond to the type of device in the Alarm panel properties of the plugin. The plugin does not automatically add the zones.

  • Garrett

Great news!

You should now be able to use them as triggers etc for other stuff now like lights etc.

If you need to get the arming and disarming etc working, then have a read of the below link and specifically the Additional Setup section.

http://code.mios.com/trac/mios_dscalarmpanel