Doubt so, unless it’s James Bond’s house.
First, if you got this kind of lock you most likely got security system, second, if someone really wants to get in, he’ll simply break the glass, or hack the lock - it’s easier then messing up with sniffers.
[quote=“325xi, post:3, topic:164271”]Doubt so, unless it’s James Bond’s house.
First, if you got this kind of lock you most likely got security system, second, if someone really wants to get in, he’ll simply break the glass, or hack the lock - it’s easier then messing up with sniffers.[/quote]
I agree. It’s much easier and cheaper for a criminal to break your glass window or to pick your door lock.
If it makes you feel any better, it really doesn’t matter how secure you make something. There is always going to be someone who can hack in. You should just make it secure enough that 99% of criminals can’t get in. I mean… look at banks! They say they are secure and they are to a certain degree, but if there is a will, there is a way to get past any security. I am a firm believer that there is no such thing as “TRUE” 100% security.
However, if you got remote access to your system… A hacker can break in remotely, from comfort of his place, taking his time… learn open your door, test it carefully, and enable hassle free entry to any criminal willing to pay him.
But there are a lot of corporations now using key/Card fobs to gain access to specific areas or to their whole building. They are at risk too, we all are.
We have to do at least some kind of security even though it’s impossible to make something 100% secure.
Very emotional and not very informative. What does it mean “this lock will not work in your existing network as you would expect a Zwave device to work”?
Well I agree with the guy…
And he’s right.
What good is the Schlage Bridge as they call it. if you cannot use it with your existing Zwave products. Are going to tell me that a Wayne dalton or a HAI thermostat is out dated and not going to work in a Schlage Link Lock environment?
If that’s the case then what are we doing here playing with VERA and old stuff.
I don’t by that and that is why I am hopeful that VERA will get the lock implemented as soon as they can.
Unfortunatley it could take some time.
Good for Vera Schlage is doing such a poor job
The good thing for us at Micasa is that they “will” get it to work for us.
well the unit may be crap but that guy is mixing things. Don’t buy it if you don’t like it. The z-wave protocol allows for “secure” and “insecure” modes, so there is no technical reason this should not coexist in the same network. I’m all for discussing things, but creating 3 threads on zwaveworld about the same topic does not help anybody but his ego.
With all due respect Hari
As I stated elsewhere we can vote with our wallets. I live in a country with Laws.
Those must be followed even by those at Schlage and Hawking.
If they advertise they will operate a thermostat and even have a Icon on the web page then they should. Other wise they must say something different.
As to the Zwave network issue.
Because of the 128 bit security the DOOR lock " NOT the Bridge will not include into a existing non 128 bit network. Meaning the Door LOCK will not speak to the older network . However in my conversation with the Certification Engineer at Zensys on Friday the Bridge device is supposed to be backward compatible.
It is supposed to be fully compliant or it will not be certified. Support for thermostat is not a mandatory requirement. However they advertise that they do. This is against Zensys policy also. The Bridge will only be a primary and not act as secondary , The bridge will not act as SIS.
You will need to have two gateways in order to use this device.
Why you ask , Because shlage is not supporting the other devices you may own so you will need to use your other gateway to work those other devices.
Was that clear enough…
The great News is that Vera should have support soon for the lock.
We’ll just have to wait and see.
Remember the lock itself is seems like a good product.
Three topics at Zwaveworld… not ego
I just want to make sure Schlage gets the point and fixes it.