I like the scrolling text, funny I never noticed that button before ![]()
Has anyone had any luck with these devices?
I am just about to ready to return it to the vendor for a refund.
Readw…Did you have anyluck with your motor controller?
I just purchased two (in Australia also) and I am having the same problem as you had but with mControl. Is there any software out there that works correctly with these motor controllers?
No unfortunately no luck with this.
I have tried a number of times to contact Aeons Labs to get them to assit.
Try emailing winston wcheng@aeon-labs.com
Maybe if he is bombarded with email he might do something.
Warren
[quote=“achalhoub, post:13, topic:167879”]I have tried all possible combinations and timers , and scripts to initiate a partial closing , but failing miserably .
the micro motor controller follows the Class A Motor specification from Z wave.
it states the following:
0: direction A
99-100: direction B
1-98 : ignored
if the motor is going into direction A and u send 99, the motor should stop. ( in the case of the aeon labs micro motor, it goes automatically in the reverse direction)
if the motor is going into direction B and u send 0, the motor should stop. ( int the case of the aeon labs micro motor , it goes automatically in the reverse direction)[/quote]
I know I am late to the party, and excuse me if this is obvious or known, but are you sure the Aeon device is using the Class A Motor Specification? All Z-Wave motor controls that I know of use the Multi-level Switch Class, so they are esssentially dimming a motor to a certain position and using on for open and off for close. Because it is using the Dimmable Switch Class there is no way to stop the motor typically, just as you can’t ‘stop’ a dimmbale light. There is a trick to acheiving a stop, possibly through scene deactivation or something because when I control the AC1-ZW that @Strangely mentions with an Aeon Labs’ Minimote (a scene controller), you can stop the motor’s movement by pressing and holding the scene button (to I assume deactivate the scene). You have to time it just right to get the motor to stop ‘near’ where you want it, but it does stop.
I can’t imagine that the sliding control for that device would work either. The controller doesn’t have load sensing like the AC1-ZW, so you can’t run an automated calibration sequence to determine motor run time like you can on the ABMHZ or the AC1-ZW. If the controller doesn’t know the motor runtime, then it can’t determine what 70% open should be. Also without load sensing there is no way to return the relays to a neutral position after the motor reaches its internal limits, or be able to confirm movement that it reached its limit (the whole purpose of having Z-Wave motor controllers, for confrimation). This is where a lot of people assume that a shading motor controller is just a set of relays, but there is some logic in there for calibration, logic to prevent both relays from being on at the same time, etc. While Aeon Lab’s device may not make a good motorized window covering controller as it is now, it should be a great set of Z-Wave relays and possibly an on command could provide sequential action for one relay and an off command for the other relay (toggling on/off states for each).
Thanks for the info chaps.
@readw…what other software have you tried?
Hi shady, Is it possible to find out what specification the motor uses?
I don’t have any experience with this device, but found a manual a while back that seemed to indicate the Basic CC and Multilevel Switch CC, like at @shady suggested.
The motors used with these controllers are know as “standard motors” in the window covering industry. They are bi-directional 4-Wire (2 Hot, 1 Neutral, 1 Ground) motors with internal limit switches. Typically the relays inside the controllers can handle any size window covering motor. One hot wire runs the shade in one direction, the other is for the other direction, cutting power stops the shade or when the shade hits its set limit an internal microswitch disconnects power to that directional wire (stopping the motor).
Load sensing on some controllers will sense when a motor reaches its limit and stops, and it will return the relay to a neutral position and report confirmation of stop via Z-Wave to Vera.
Currently the device incorrectly shows up as a light dimmer and not a blind control.
If some way exists to show it up as a blind device it should work properly. Any help to get to that state would be great.
Here are two additional contacts at Aeon Labs.
Mark Mo mmo@aeon-labs.com & William Li wli@aeon-labs.com
Readw…have you tried any other software?
I just made a blind controller out of a dimmer/switch and it seems that they did the same. At the output of the switch you attach Dual Tension relay with power feed. When the switch power is on the relay supply power to the up motor coil and when the power is off the relay supply power to the down coil. It can only go all the way up or down till the motor reach the limit and stop. (My motor didn’t like it and I have to figure out why. (Considering that I spent $40 total on everything I can afford some failures)
Total budget:
Radio shack appliance switch, Ebay 10 motors for $200, $5 relay and some extras
Aron lab are terrible Just bought energy monitor. The product was release at alpha phase and they don’t stand behind it.
[quote=“tinkerdoctor, post:34, topic:167879”]Aron lab are terrible Just bought energy monitor. The product was release at alpha phase and they don’t stand behind it.[/quote]The one with the clamps? I’m interested in one of those too. ![]()
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response via email from mControl:
"Unfortunately, our existing Z-Wave driver, which is built on a now obsolete ControlThink library, can not support new devices of this type.
We will be re-writing (from scratch) a Z-Wave driver later this year after the release of mControl v3 - it is our intention to be able to support a wider range of devices.
Until this time, you will have to use the motor controller as a Dimmer switch."
In response to Shadys question.
The Aeon motor controllers are essentially switched devices in that it is two relay controlled switches, One for up and one for the down motor winding. This motor controller has an option to have three switches fitted (up/down/stop) it is this functionality that I would like to replicate on Vera.
For some reason this device defaults to the light dimmer module this is problematic. As you have correctly pointed out the controller has no feed back loop to provide positional information.
When the UP command is issued it activates the UP relay. This is fine as the stop switch in the blind motor will activate once the it reaches the limit. The problem is the relay remains active in that state (which is not good).
What ideally needs to happen is after a preset period of time Vera needs to issue a stop command to deactivate the relay, however in its current configuration Vera issuing a stop command causes the DOWN command to be issued and the same but in reverse situation occurrs leaving the DOWN relay active.
I assume that a plugin can be built to enable this sequence of events to take place.
Warren
Any news on this?, I am asking Aeon Labs about this but.
Right now this unit offer the same functionality as a three way switch, but has the potential to be a good shade controller (because it has two relays).
No not as yet.
The controller works fine, my comment below is not quite correct, after some further testing I have found that the relay does drop out once the blind limit switch is activated.
I have been slowly modifying and learning how the xml works, but at this time I have not been able to issue a stop command from Vera.
Warren
Answer from Winston (Aeon Labs)
you can Issue a Multilevel Switch Dim Stop command in Z-wave to make it stop
Anyone has tried it?