It’s not… I myself have made the occasional comment about Wink and their support as an aside to my question/comment/instruction/request while trying to support a user of the plugin…
But you, in particular, started to make it into a personal attack with:
and I would like to avoid that…
This is the support thread for the PLUGIN… I don’t want someone to feel aprehensive about posting a question or ask for support because they are afraid of getting involved in an ideological debate.
[quote=“FOCGreeN, post:419, topic:185289”]HA for the masses means everything that they say is compatible IS compatible. They have a partnership program to help guarantee compatibility and the device manufacturers can use compatibility as a selling point. I’m sorry that motion sensor outside of what they say will work don’t work generically. Don’t be surprised that something that you buy that isn’t on Wink’s site as working doesn’t work. Not wink’s fault. There are some monoprice motions that do work with wink. Don’t bother about preaching about the whole Z-wave compatibility thing. Many z-wave devices aren’t compatible with Vera but we make them work because we have root access to out devices.
I don’t work for Quirky or any of the other HA people. It doesn’t sound like wink is a product for you. Many of us use wink as a cheap Zigbee/Lutron gateway. It is very rare that I will buy something pre-release unless I anticipate the product being difficult to get. Buy a pre-release product is a choice we all make with the possibility it may be delayed or not sold. You are buying a place in line. A call to customer service should cancel that order at any time.
Vera (Mi Casa Verde) started at the opposite user spectrum and wasn’t very user friendly. UI7 has been a step in the direction of being more user friendly for most users.[/quote]
I’m not talking about a true “generic” zwave sensor, I’m talking about aeonlabs, everspring, ecolink, etc. When the sensors, that I already have, work on a cheap PC usb zwave dongle that’s bundled with free controller sw and they worked out of the box in Vera but wink couldn’t get them to work in 7 months; I think the criticism is legit.
Right now my hub is just that; a gateway used by Vera Edge via the Wink Connect plugin (on topic 
) to control my GE Link bulbs. As you know Vera is very robust in terms of scenes so it’s nice to actually be able to use my sensors to control my bulbs…for a change.
Yeah, they can’t replace every bulb but I have 6 in use. I often use the switch to bypass some lights but that’s where zwave sensor support helps and wink doesn’t have much of that in their app. With the Wink Connect (still on topic) I can use my sensors in vera (since I can’t with wink) and let vera sensors control some wink lights.
I like the plugin,Cybr. Your work on this plugin and the USB alarm plugin and EVL3 plugin is top notch. That is a ton of research and product to stay on top of.
Thanks again for your hard work.
It’s not… I myself have made the occasional comment about Wink and their support as an aside to my question/comment/instruction/request while trying to support a user of the plugin…
But you, in particular, started to make it into a personal attack with:
and I would like to avoid that…
This is the support thread for the PLUGIN… I don’t want someone to feel aprehensive about posting a question or ask for support because they are afraid of getting involved in an ideological debate.[/quote]
I hope he didn’t take that question personally, it’s not unreasonable that somebody from wink could be here to defend wink/quirky so I asked and when he said no I took him at his word. That was the end of that.
In a roundabout way we are talking about the plugin. If the app was better I wouln’t have come looking for vera or the wink connect plugin. (still on topic)
It’s not… I myself have made the occasional comment about Wink and their support as an aside to my question/comment/instruction/request while trying to support a user of the plugin…
But you, in particular, started to make it into a personal attack with:
and I would like to avoid that…
This is the support thread for the PLUGIN… I don’t want someone to feel aprehensive about posting a question or ask for support because they are afraid of getting involved in an ideological debate.[/quote]
I hope he didn’t take that question personally, it’s not unreasonable that somebody from wink could be here to defend wink/quirky so I asked and when he said no I took him at his word. That was the end of that.
In a roundabout way we are talking about the plugin. If the app was better I wouln’t have come looking for vera or the wink connect plugin. (still on topic) ;)[/quote]
I think wink is a year from being something good. Apple Homekit may accelerate that. I think we forget how long it has taken Vear and the Vera community to get where it is. Honestly, my wife uses the Wink app and has access to the compatible Vera Z-wave devices and use the Vera app and others to do what I want to do. In a way the both have their place. The plugin also helps bridge the gap between the user skills in my household.
Only 1 year? You have more faith in them than I do. I think they’re inept and dishonest.
This plugin is great because my hub would be pretty useless with this and Vera. I would have been limited to turning on-off 6 bulbs, with my phone, without it. I did recently buy a MyQ garage opener that works with both wink and vera but I connected it to vera since I already have it and it’s better.
[quote=“holeyman, post:426, topic:185289”]Only 1 year? You have more faith in them than I do. I think they’re inept and dishonest.
This plugin is great because my hub would be pretty useless with this and Vera. I would have been limited to turning on-off 6 bulbs, with my phone, without it. I did recently buy a MyQ garage opener that works with both wink and vera but I connected it to vera since I already have it and it’s better.[/quote]
They are new and green. Hard to say if they will be a major player but concept is good. Technical support has been pretty decent. I know there have been many changes at Wink/Quirky. Ascend and norm are holdovers from old quirky but it looks like they are making sure a good product comes to market… Products like eggminder will not come to market anymore. Also they are only focusing on electronics. Spotter v1 was terrible but was a god idea just not implemented well. With Aeon’s new multi-sensor releasing in June, I won’t be buying Wink’s v2. I hope to see some use of Wink’s bluetooth 4.0 radio. Would be cool to see BT LE used and out mobile devices used as keys and use that in Vera too with the plugin.
I liked the concept but was completely disappointed in the implementation and incompetent twitter/email support.
The hub itself might be decent hardware and future quirky products MIGHT (might not) be better but I’ve lost all confidence in them and, again, I think their business practices are questionable so I have little desire to support them in the future. Who knows; maybe they’ll get their act together and become the next best thing since x-10! I won’t hold my breath…
I think the quirky dashboard thingy uses BT, if you want to know your twitter/fb/email kind of stats in a dashboard configuration. shrug
This could be welcome news for many. According to Ben Kaufman (Quirky CEO) they will be releasing Norm (the thermostat) on 8/1 (projected). Was already suppose to be released. The reason is they didn’t want to release it with Wink Hub having local control. It is coming…
How’d that root go? I should figure out how to root mine too…
So no local coming then or…?
I’m confused, do you mean “The reason is they didn’t want to release it WITHOUT Wink Hub having local control.” ? Lately, I’ve been pretty pleased with my Wink hub…everything has been running smoothly and my GE Link bulbs have been working great. So far I only have 7 GE Link lights and a Refuel connected to my Wink though. I’m focusing on adding Z-wave light switches around the house right now.
They don’t want to have a thermostat that depends on the cloud. I your internet is out and you are home you can’t set it. Wink has promised local control but has never given a date. This is the closest thing to a timeline.
Should have it before then. They have said it is in the works. That 3-5 second delay (without root) will be a thing of the past. Trippers will make a great addition to vera’s security options because if their price.
cybrmage
Installed .18 from MIOS app store… I put in IP, user/pw, etc. All was fine until changed it to Local mode (rooted wink).
then… Startup Lua Failed
So I installed .18b12 over the top… same thing
I cannot make any changes to the settings since the LUA fails.
I had to go into ADVANCED tab and change it back to Remote to get it to stop failing and said No Devices (which is correct)
Then I could go in and change it back to Local, using the Setup tab. Now it says Logged Out after I force a ReSync?
Does anyone know how to get a Wink “Shortcut” to trigger a Vera scene?
I have a Wink Relay and a Wink Hub. On the relay I have two shortcuts listed. I was able to create a shortcut that turns of all lights, but I can’t perform actions within other third party plugins.
I have the PowerMax alarm plugin and would love it if my “Away” shortcut also set the alarm. Right now I have a semi-reliable hack where I have a zwave switch that triggers a scene in vera when set to “on,” but this requires hardware just to trigger a scene and adds even more lag.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Hi
New user here. Does the Wink Connect App work to add Lutron Serena Shades to Vera? (I currently am using Vera for my lights and sonos, but using wink hub to control my lutron serena shades). I installed the Wink Connect App and it seems to be working under UI7, but no shade devices appear)
Thanks so much
Hi mfcrunchy
Did you get an answer to this? Would be interested if you have
Thanks
Thanks a bunch for the plugin. Great Job.
Do you have the code up on Github or similar?
I updated the the local_api.php file for the latest version of the Wink firmware to include a TimeOut for opening the local DB.
This fixed an issue I was having being able to use the local API.
The change was as follows around line 92.
function db_exec_query($query)
{
$db_name = '/database/apron.db';
$dbHandle = new SQLite3($db_name);
[b] $dbHandle->busyTimeout(10000); // 10 seconds[/b]
if (!$dbHandle) {
Thanks!
I just bought a Vera and connected the wink connect. All the devices appears on the vera, however they are always shown as ON even though the lights are OFF. Is this normal? Or am I missing something?
Keep getting this message: Wink_Connect : WINK HUB DEVICE UPDATE ERROR: Device could not be updated…
[quote=“igrip, post:438, topic:185289”]I just bought a Vera and connected the wink connect. All the devices appears on the vera, however they are always shown as ON even though the lights are OFF. Is this normal? Or am I missing something?
Keep getting this message: Wink_Connect : WINK HUB DEVICE UPDATE ERROR: Device could not be updated…[/quote]
Did you install the latest beta patch?
EDIT:
I think this is the latest: http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,30007.msg234676.html#msg234676
No, thought it updated automatically. Added the .12B patch and seems now seems to work so far.
Thanks!
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