Leviton Scene Controllers & Luup Firmware

I was attempting to reinclude my 2 leviton scene controllers (1 Scene and 4 Scene) this weekend with the luup firmware. Haven’t included them in the network in months.

I spent hours reading the wiki and trying to configure them but the wiki is obviously out of date and I never got them to work.

Does anyone have these configured under luup firmware? How do we do this? Are there still 2 methods? Half of the buttons in the wiki dont even exist anymore in the vera interface… ???

I have over $600 tied up in four in-wall 4-zone and 4-scene controllers just laying around waiting for a solution as promised by MCV here: http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=2012.msg8217#msg8217

I installed one with no success (other than making the switched circuit “device” work). If you figure anything out in the meantime, let us know!

I heard that Leviton maybe using a non standard method of control. I know that MCV has been trying to get to the bottom of this. I too have been waiting.

I am running firmware 939 and have a Leviton 4-scene controller installed successfully. I’m using Method #2, which means having Vera control the scenes, not the controller directly. However, I am admittedly using the scene controller in a very basic manner, only controlling a few lights. I haven’t configured any scenes to do anything advanced, like control sensors or thermostats, even though I have both in my network.

Following the wiki instructions for installing the scene controller worked perfectly. However, when I initially installed Method #2, and tried to return to Method #1 because I thought it would improve responiveness, I somehow kluged up the controller and my network to the point of eventually factory resetting and re-configuring everything from scratch.

So net-net, the Leviton controller is working, but from my experience, it’s very finicky. After you configure it, leave well enough alone :slight_smile:

The whole Idea is to use the scene controler with Method # 1. Method #2 requires MCV to relay the command from the scene controller this is not what it was those controllers are made to do. If the only way to program is to use the Leviton then the Leviton must be able to work as a secondary inclusion controller with Vera in SIS/SUC

I’d even settle for Method #2 at this point, but after configuring, my controller (VRCS4-MRX) doesn’t come back with |44 in the Capabilities list. It has a |45 which doesn’t bring in the “Treat scene buttons as events” option. Vera has a way of making me feel quite incompetent.

Mine does not have the “treat scene button as events” option either… thats what i was trying to do

Yeah, if you manually enter the |44 in the Capabilities, it will give you the scene buttons but as soon as it goes out and configures again, it corrects it back to what the device has on its chip. I think this is a MCV thing to make the |45 (or whatever) give us the buttons option. Just guessing.

Oh well… looks like I need to wait a little longer to use my scene controllers.

944 rocks! See my other post: http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=2204.msg8967#msg8967

I have a Leviton Scene Controller+Switch that I setup/ZWave-associated with Vera prior to moving to 1.0.93x, and now I’m on 1.0.944.

I completed the Button/Scene association using the 944 release, using the new method described in one of the other threads, and it’s working fine. Once configured, it even works if Vera’s Dongle is removed.

The trick is that the Button-Scene associations are now all controlled under “Scenes”, without the funky Device extensions UI that was used prior. You need to attach the Button “Event” in the Scene editor.

and here’s the post I meant to link this morning where @mark-hc quotes a note from @cj:

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=2189.msg8886#msg8886

I’m currently on 958. Some of the scenes on my Leviton in-wall 4-scene controller included Schlage RP200 light modules. The scenes would activate as programmed, but the Schlage units would not respond to the dimmer (button #5 on VRCS4-MR) nor would they turn off with the second press of the scene’s button. I replaced the Schlage modules with Leviton lamp modules and now I have full on/dim/off control of the scenes from my in-wall controllers. I’m happy with the functionality, even though the response time is a little sluggish. I imagine guests will be confused when lights don’t switch instantaneously like they’re used to, resulting in some double-pushes, etc. The upside is that I don’t need a separate button for each level I want i.e., Full, 50%, and Off.

And finally I have a question: should I update the wiki/Supported Hardware to reflect these differences between the two different manufacturers’ lamp modules? Or have I missed something in the way they could interoperate? I would like to have known in advance that I should have avoided non-Leviton devices on lights that would be controlled via a Leviton scene controller. I thought I was smart for buying the (much) less expensive Schlage and Intermatic modules, but I have to be careful to use them only where I don’t need the full capabilities of the wall controller. But If I’ve missed something, I don’t want to post misinformation on the wiki.

CMRancho - I’m still on 939, but experienced exactly what you did. When I first installed my 4-button scene controller, I opted for Method #1, but the one Intermatic Lamp Module I had in the scene wasn’t responding, whereas the three other Leviton devices were. So I had to switch to Method #2 to get that one lamp module to work. I’ve since purchased a Leviton Lamp Module (at a 100% price increase over the Intermatic, unfortunately), and will install that when I’m back at my weekend home (in a couple weeks), and revert back to Method #1 for better response [hopefully]. I like all the cool stuff you can do with scenes through Vera, but for something like an in-wall scene controller, I’d prefer that it work stand-alone and communicate directly with it’s linked devices, and I don’t need my scene controller to do anything unusual with non-scene enabled devices (like my thermostat).

Hmmm, now I’m confused… I thought there was no more Method #1 and Method #2… I thought they had found a way to combine them… ??? Someone should update the wiki on how to use these controllers…

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method 1.5

That actually is an excellent idea. So we would do both at once. Vera you attach a scene to a button on a scene controller/remote. Vera separates the z-wave lights vs. everything else, programming the lights using method #1, but also adding Vera as a light for method #2. Then when you hit the ‘off’ button, it will have no effect on thermostats/etc., but turn the lights off. I’ll add it to the todo list.

http://bugs.micasaverde.com/view.php?id=631[/quote]

BOSSTON: you’re right, at least with 958. Need I add AFAIK? You create a scene, create event, select the controller, select “a scene is activated”, name the event and assign it to a scene (button) number. Then set the commands below.

See the release notes for 979 and the new Add Controller wiki page. It’s updated now.