Firmware update 7.0.14 (7.0.15 beta it became and then 7.0.15)

[quote=“konradwalsh, post:120, topic:192320”][quote=“paros, post:118, topic:192320”]It seems like people have big problems with bugs. I have all kind of sensors, door looks, cameras. etc and running Vera Plus. The only minor bugs that I have noticed is that 2 door sensors showing that they are not connected, but they works perfect.
First I did a upgrade from Vera Edge, but had problems after the upgrade, therfore I installed everything from scratch. Perhaps I am lucky because of this?[/quote]

I did the exact same painful process… but yes,as far as devices go… i do not have issues either like people state…[/quote]

I did the same.
when i moved from my ui5 vera lite to vera plus ui7 i decided i wasn’t even going to bother with trying to upgrade.
i just unpaired everything and started from scratch.
and for the most part, everything is working fine.

I also unpaired everything from UI5 and started from scratch. Everything works fine for me. VeraPlus found all my devices without having to move it. Sorry others are having such problems.

Well I suppose it is somewhat encouraging to hear these success stories.

I upgraded from UI5 on a VeraLite that has been rock stable for years. Since I upgraded to my VeraPlus I’ve had 5 months of:

[ul][li]Can’t delete/remove devices[/li]
[li]Random missing devices (some battery, some powered, some are the same devices missing since day 1, some are random)[/li]
[li]Inability to connect at all on certain devices[/li]
[li]Simple “3 hour wait” Triggers actually working about 10% of the time[/li]
[li]1 recent instance where ALL my Aeon switches shut off at once (shutting down 4 computers, my security system, an irrigation valve and the home theater - Boom![/li][/ul]

I really dread having to start from scratch as I have a plethera of virtual switches and some PLEG controls controlling a number of non-zwave related hardware, but it sounds like I will have to bite the bullet soon. It seems waiting for a magical Firmware update to resolve everything is optimistic at best - more likely delusional on my part.

Thanks for sharing the good experiences. Like many I am guilty of only coming to the forums when I got problems so I appreciate taking the time to share the fact that things are going well.

Same here. Rebuilt from scratch and my system is rock solid. I haven’t had to fiddle with it for months, I’d venture a guess that whatever problems were introduced from upgrading from previous hardware might not be fixed because the bugs were created by the upgrade process. Therefore the bugs are already on your system. I’d recommend a clean install, even if it is painful.

Been there, done that. Twice… (rebuilt from scratch).

Been there, donr that. Twic…

CONFIRMED bugs by MCV. And promised resolution since months ago…[/quote]

you say “confirmed” but others are not having them.
maybe you are, i’m not doubting you, but all things being equal, everyone should have those same exact bugs with the same exact hardware and software, and that’s not the case.
I’ve read the bugs you listed, myself and others have none of those.

I’m running 1.7.1786
maybe load that up and just 1 device and see what happens.

who knows how long it will be till a new firmware will be out. so it can’t hurt in the meantime.

[quote=“mvader, post:126, topic:192320”]I’m running 1.7.1786
maybe load that up and just 1 device and see what happens.

who knows how long it will be till a new firmware will be out. so it can’t hurt in the meantime.[/quote]

How do you get 1.7.1786? Mine is says " You are running the latest version: 1.7.1754"

Beyond that though, I think Sender’s request for a firmware update is more than reasonable. Sender, like the rest of us paid for a product and we expect it to work. For those that have had a good experience, that’s great. For others, at what point have we done enough troubleshooting with support to say we have done all we reasonably can? Just because some people are not experiencing the problem doesn’t mean a problem doesn’t exist.

[quote=“ChrisK, post:127, topic:192320”][quote=“mvader, post:126, topic:192320”]I’m running 1.7.1786
maybe load that up and just 1 device and see what happens.

who knows how long it will be till a new firmware will be out. so it can’t hurt in the meantime.[/quote]

How do you get 1.7.1786? Mine is says " You are running the latest version: 1.7.1754"

Beyond that though, I think Sender’s request for a firmware update is more than reasonable. Sender, like the rest of us paid for a product and we expect it to work. For those that have had a good experience, that’s great. For others, at what point have we done enough troubleshooting with support to say we have done all we reasonably can? Just because some people are not experiencing the problem doesn’t mean a problem doesn’t exist.[/quote]

It came with my vera plus, and it’s been working fine (minus a html/css type graphic bug)
but i have none of the issues listed.
I think someone linked to the download for that firmware somewhere… i can’t recall where i saw it… google for it.

I’m not saying he is being unreasonable. i’m saying he’s made the request over and over and over and over and over.
where has it got him? no where… so in light of that. maybe try what i’m suggesting.
if he did it b4. then do it again. do it with just 1 device.
look up how to factory reset. see if you can just do a factory reset and only load 1 device… no plugins.
see what happens… again… it can’t hurt given the circumstances.
i’m only trying to offer help.

[quote=“mvader, post:128, topic:192320”]I’m not saying he is being unreasonable. i’m saying he’s made the request over and over and over and over and over.
where has it got him? no where… so in light of that. maybe try what i’m suggesting.
if he did it b4. then do it again. do it with just 1 device.
look up how to factory reset. see if you can just do a factory reset and only load 1 device… no plugins.
see what happens… again… it can’t hurt given the circumstances.
i’m only trying to offer help.[/quote]

@mvader Sorry if you thought that part of my post was directed at you, it really wasn’t. I do see your point and believe you are trying to be helpful. I am just little frustrated with those who don’t think there is a problem because they have not experienced it or use that feature.

For the record, I have worked with Vera’s support too and my problem is not fixed after many hours of my time and months waiting for a resolution. I am told it will be resolved. So what does one do? Marc is just the messenger. Obviously, barking at or pleading with him is just a waste of time and energy. I don’t think keeping the topic alive is going to hurt the cause though.

[quote=“mvader, post:128, topic:192320”]It came with my vera plus, and it’s been working fine (minus a html/css type graphic bug)
but i have none of the issues listed.[/quote]

My Vera Plus (pre-order) shows 1.7.1754 as the latest available. I have run into a few issue, especially the “Can’t detect device” yet it still works issue, and random Luup restarts. I also once had my Vera completely stop responding, web interface would not load and it wouldn’t even ping on the network. Luckily pulling the power and pluging it back in for a hard restart fixed it.

If you read the forums for some of the plugins you’ll see many references to bugs the developers have run into that MCV has promised an updated firmware to fix.

In each issue I’ve had to engage support on, they have told me that the issues I’m dealing with are fixed in the next version of the firmware, and that it will be available “soon.” The first time I received that message was several months ago.

When I pre-ordered a new product I expected there to be some potential issues. Bugs, new devices not supported yet (it was their first Bluetooth and Zigbee capable box), etc. The fact it is taking a while didn’t bother me at first as I would rather it be done right than done just to get it out the door.

HOWEVER, it has now been many months with no updates and basic core functionality not working properly. Forget new features. We need the basic functionality for the box to work. Some of these issues seem to be in UI7, some seem to be specific to the Plus. Either way it is pretty embarrassing that basic Z-Wave devices from some of the most popular and well received brands either are not supported either at all or properly (see Fibraro and Aeotec Z-wave plus devices), or work but the system tells you they aren’t.

The Plus was my very first Vera system. If it wasn’t for the excellent Caseta plugin by Cybrmage I probably would have tossed the Plus thinking it was a total lemon. I see a lot of discussions about Homeseer, but their Lutron support doesn’t seem nearly as well designed and though out as the Cybrmage plugin and that is the significant portion of my system right now.

What is especially ironic about this is that it is the 3rd party plugins that have given me the best and most stable experience. When I was using only Caseta and a couple of Zigbee devices the system was doing exactly what I would want of it, with an occasional unexpected Luup restart. Then I started adding Z-Wave devices, what should be a basic thing on the system. That is when my experience started falling apart.

I also see a lot of discussion around the fact that Vera users, and the users on the board, tend to be more technical types. From what I’ve seen I also believe that to be true. And one thing MCV needs to remember is that your lesser technical types come to people like us for advice on what to use and what to avoid. With my experiences thus far I certainly wouldn’t advice anyone I know to go the Vera route, even my more tech experienced friends.

The Vera Plus in my experience has a lot of potential. It could really be a killer system. But until the core basic functionality properly works out of the box the system is just going to continue to spawn more threads like this with lots of unhappy people.

an update for windows app has been released this morning …
So they work !!!

My point of view is that most of your problems come from the NAND.
Check if you have bad blocks in NAND memory (http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Vera_Nand).

In the console, do “dmesg”

Flashing a new firmware or forcing the reattribution of the bad blocks could fix the problem… but it will come again.

I Have a Vera edge, not the plus. Firmware numbers differ. 7.13 is the same number though. And I can’t stress the fact I am not te only one with the EXACT same bugs as others. They are described in numerous threads in this forum. And they have been confirmed as bugs by MCV during intense support sessions I had with them.

I don’t say ALL others must or may have these bugs. Offcourse not. But I think in the end, everyone will face one of the current ones. My queste is to move Vera to say what they do and do what they say.

I had 5 support tickets, for 5 seperate problems, 5 confirmed bugs and 5 “this will be resolved in the next firmware release solutions”. since 5 months and had no problem with UI5 that I have now with UI7.

CONFIRMED bugs by MCV. And promised resolution since months ago…

Edit: Before I started this thread with a simple question. I asked MCV A LOT via mail and in the support tickets when the promised firmware resolving all my problems would come out. That gave me no answer (as well a this thread still doesn’t), thus I thought to bring it public in this thread.

It may make me impopulair on this forum, that’s a price I have to pay to try to move MCV to publish a firmware addressing at least my problems (and I hope a dozen of others as well).

Popularity of not, I would expect that you may have guessed by now that MCV will publish their next update when they are good and ready. It has been shown many times in the past that no amount of pressure here on the forums (or elsewhere) will make them do something they are not ready to do.

Personally, I would suggest that your point has been made and that any more is just flogging a dead horse.

And what is the dead horse?

The horse isn’t dead. This is applying CPR to it until help arrives. Never give up on the horse!

You can give it the kiss of life then!

I am a new entry into this hobby, I purchased a VeraPlus the beginning of May.
My plan is to slowly add devices month to month. I am only controlling 3 items at this time, a switch, an outlet and an Enerwave dual relay, I have added Echo support through the Phillips Hue gateway emulator, everything has worked as expected for me. Currently running 1.7.1786
I am sure there are many with more complicated setups that are having issues, just thought I would throw my hat in as a happy customer.

I started the same way and I am on my 3rd controller (wanted to upgrade) starting slow is the way to go just keep adding as you go, let it stabilize and then continue. I find that after adding stuff the vera becomes a little unstable but smooths out after a few days. Strange. I think it gets a bad rap here in the forums.

"We are currently performing software updates on UI7 live server.
You might experience some delays while using our platform.

Our apologies for any inconvenience this degradation in performance may cause.

As always, should you have any questions, comments, or concerns, please email us at support@getvera.com. "

First time I received this email. It seems the firmware that everyone is talking about is coming.