Another “last question”, and probably a dumb one :-[ :
Having a Kwikset lock, PINs (and Vera…), is there a way to get rid of the keypad when using a security panel ?
Gast
As a practical matter, no, you’re going to need a keypad, for the initial programming if nothing else. It’s also going to be a bit more reliable, I’d expect, as it cuts several links out of the chain in case there’s trouble–rather than using your smartphone to connect to your wireless router to connect to Vera to connect to the WizNET to connect to the IT100 to connect to your control panel, you just use the keypad (or an alternate keypad–most systems support more than one, and you’ll probably want to have more than one).
Thanks for the info Guessed,
I don’t mean to promote one manufacturer over another but I am always wondering who has the most stable and reliable platform.
My issues are alway unique because I am using these systems on yachts. We encounter frequent power downs since we provide our own power so we get issues like … Default Dimmer Values on power up, Communication errors due to a unit being powered off on the alarm system… You see my point.
Thus, I hope you on the forum don’t get too frustrated or confused with my nagging questions!
Thanks again.
Tim Alls
AllSeas Yachts
Thanks Danb35
Ok, I will have a Keypad 
That said, can I disarmed the panel just by entering my PIN to unlock the door ?
[quote=“huogas, post:24, topic:167894”]That said, can I disarmed the panel just by entering my PIN to unlock the door ?[/quote] Yes you can.
Thanks Strangely.
And how do I do that ? With a scene ?
Also, is there a trick to arm the system without using the keypad (a special PIN to lock the door and arm) ?
Gast.
Yes you correct… with a scene to disarm based on a PIN based event from the door lock.
Arming would be a bit more tricky; you can create a scene that arms on the lock being “locked” but then you’d be arming every time you locked, and therefore not ideal if somebody else was at home or you just wanted the door locked while at home.
If you are really set on a PIN for Arming also, then you could have a special PIN that triggers a new scene; this new scene could be one that unlocks the lock, re-locks it, and then also arms the alarm.
The issue with the above is that it will drain lock batteries faster, and also one of the steps may get missed from time to time?!
I would just get a key fob to arm/disarm the alarm as they are about $30
Guessed, don’t worry my friend. As I said before, when you need to return that panel, let me know. We’re not letting you off the hook that easy. LOL!! 
Well, and then there’s a long list of items I need to do for myself 8)
…I’ll be turning my attention back to very shortly (Paradox → “v2” Panel spec, Kwikwai HDMI, Brultech Power Monitoring, etc, etc)
The best long-term bet to having the DSC Alarm System work, and work well, is to find an actual Developer that has and uses one in their house… or group together (or convince MCV) to get one for a Developer to have and use in their house.
It’s how I got most of the kinks out of the Paradox System that I use, and it’s really no different for the DSC.
That said, it’s quite viable at the moment, so most of the wrap-up items that are needed are to focus on the Doc, since there was definitely a lot of discussion on how to set it up in order for users to get going.
Am I correct to say that an invalid PIN number could be trapped by Vera ?
If it is the case, could we check that invalid PIN and if it is “9999”, then lock and arm ?
[quote=“huogas, post:30, topic:167894”]Am I correct to say that an invalid PIN number could be trapped by Vera ?
If it is the case, could we check that invalid PIN and if it is “9999”, then lock and arm ?[/quote]Unfortunately not! I think the lock only transmits that a failed one has been entered and not which one.
You could still use this feature but it would mean any wrong PIN.
Thanks Strangely
…and what would be required to have Kwikset transmitting both good and wrong codes ?
If impossible, another idea: would it be possible to to the following:
[ul][li]key “lock” pressed[/li]
[li]if within 15 seconds a wrong code (let’s say “9999”) is entered, arm the security system.[/li][/ul]
Gast
I would imagine that for security reasons, neither a good nor a wrong code is transmitted.
It is for sure that good PINs are transmitted to Vera; they are logged as events.
All communication to and from the lock is encrypted anyway; however I can’t say that the PIN gets transmitted as good or bad… it may just be as simple as PIN #1, PIN #2 or bad PIN that gets transmitted, rather than the specific PIN itself.
I Wouldn’t get too hung up on automating it anyway because because the keyfobs are inexpensive, and if you really wanted it automated, then you could set up a scene controller next to your door that has a leaving scene, that waits for you to shut the door (sensor driven) then locks the lock and arms the alarm. And then another scene that disarms it when you arrive via a PIN code.
Thanks everyone.
I was trying…
Well, it doesn’t (appear to) transfer the PIN, just the fact that Code 1, Code 2, etc. was entered. That’s presumably why the GUI offers the option to save the actual PINs for you when configured through Vera. But PINs you program on the lock itself are shown in the GUI as ****.
My guess is this is for security / there is no need to transmit the actual PIN. Even though the communications are encrypted.
Well, it doesn’t (appear to) transfer the PIN, just the fact that Code 1, Code 2, etc. was entered. That’s presumably why the GUI offers the option to save the actual PINs for you when configured through Vera. But PINs you program on the lock itself are shown in the GUI as ****.[/quote]
Vera2 UI4(1.1.1047) shows actual PINs, not ****
For PIN codes configured on the lock itself (i.e. not through Vera with the option to save a copy selected)?
For PIN codes configured on the lock itself (i.e. not through Vera with the option to save a copy selected)?[/quote]
For sure not…