No there wasn’t after 6th. If there was Patrick can disclose it (you have my permission).
To summarize:
Patrick said: “I will round up the NDA”
I said : Send me your details so that I can wire money
Patrick said : “will do”
Patrick didn’t do neither of what he promised.
I chased twice over a month period.
Patrick didn’t have the decency to respond to me at all!!!
is this you? https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikikrstevski/?originalSubdomain=mk
Someone provided this to me, but I don’t know if its you or not. Because this person doesn’t have any “software engineering” qualification it seems.
Yes that’s me. Read between lines 
But you said you are a “software engineer”?
You don’t list that as a qualification.
Can you please explain why you claimed to be a “Software Engineer”?
You are “giving advice” about how to measure software development as a “Software Engineer” in your posts.
Your linked profile here doesn’t say anything about you being a Software Engineer:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikikrstevski/?originalSubdomain=mk
Read between the lines its coded
LOL…
Now that you are caught with your pants down, the best defense you have is to be “cryptic”…
How pathetic!
in my opinion : You are just lying aren’t you and you have no qualification as a “Software Engineer” as per your linked profile. But that didn’t stop you from “claiming you are a Software Engineer” did it!! Amazing really!
In my opinion: the @rafale77 group (who claims he is an expert in semiconductor industry but his role is a Sales person in Semiconductor industry) is bunch of techie wannabees who lie, cheat and steal all miraculously joined together in this pathetic group called smarthome . community (with only a handful people) who feed off each other’s incompetency and hate. What I call as this hate group is all funded by pointpubmedia - https://pointpubmedia.com/en/agence-web a small web design company run by a guy called Sebastien Roy.
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*You can see yet another person Profile - rafale77 - Ezlo Community banned for misleading the forum on many occasions who goes around and claims he is a “semiconductor professional” but only to be found out that he is a Business Development/Sales professional in semiconductor industry…not a Semiconductor engineer…not a software engineer…not a hardware engineer…Sales guy *
*Ezlo controllers Beta enrollment starts now - #314 by melih *
Also you can see how this @rafale77 Sales guy was making negative predictions claiming he knows it all in semiconductor industry, but only to be all false prediction that our engineers proved to be wrong Alexa, Christmas lights on! - #91 by melih
One claims to be a “Software Engineer”…his linked in says Not…
The other claims to be a “Semiconductor Professional”…his linked in says “He is a Sales guy”…
PS: Vera forums have been hijacked by these kinds of people over the years with the previous management not purging them. We are now purging to make sure our legitimate users don’t endure these kind of exposure to liars, cheats and unqualified people who pretend to be qualified offering advice to our users.
If MESHENE is superior to Reactor why would you want Reactor as the core advanced rules engine for the Ezlo product? Why wouldn’t you want to keep core functionalities like this in house?
MESHENE is NOT just a UI to create a rule engine.
Its how the whole firmware/hardware put together that will enable grouping. Reactor is a User of MESHENE not a replacement.
Its bit late Seb! Now you reach out to me ha! Sending me a nice email want to talk to me!
After enabling this hate group against our engineers and funding it as https://pointpubmedia.com/en/agence-web
Shame on you Seb and Shame on https://pointpubmedia.com/en/agence-web Pointpubmedia for funding what I believe to be this hate group!
So then why not develop the UI in house, especially if the core already exists? Sounds like the hard part is already done.
Unless because only 5% of the user base is using an advanced rules engine like Reactor then its not really worth it because Alexa, Google and Homekit can handle the basic on/off controls. Their downfall is they can’t run locally.
You are correct the hard part is done and was hoping the plugin developers would take advantage and develop the plugin. That is why I offered to donate $18K to Patrick.
But we now realize that Patrick is not interested ( he didn’t say he wasn’t doing it, kept us hanging 
).
Writing a web based UI to create a Ezlo Rule Engine is something we started recently. We will give you a web based UI called Ezlo Rule Engine that also has Device Setting capabilities. Of course we will be launching it in steps… hopefully by or around summer we’ll have something pretty decent as an advanced rule engine all web based.(Shame that Plugin guys didn’t do it, but worry not we will always provide what our customers need! One way or the other)
These are VERY preliminary screenshots of the system we are developing…we still have few months to go until I am happy with the end result.
Functionality looks very similar to scenes in the Vera. One thing that I think is very basic for me anyway is that when I come ‘Home’ I only want to turn a light on if its dark out. I wound up adding lua code to a scene to check if it was night, this seemed like simple functionality that should not have required learning some basic lua code. I’m not a developer by any means but thankfully I’ve had exposure to some basic programming and was able to figure it out with the help of the forum.
Like I said, its very preliminary. Please do not Judge yet! This is based on “Preliminary” screenshots I am showing you. Wait until I say, “here is a Rule Engine I am happy with please use” then Judge it You shouldn’t have to know coding to enable HA.
When I am finished with it, there won’t be a function that you have in reactor that is not provided in our Ezlo Rule Engine, Plus more!
@melih, this is off topic, but interesting, please start a new topic on this. I’m a happy Reactor user but before Reactor I used lua script to make my system work. I switched to Reactor because it is easy, good and survives system reloads.
What you are asking for “if Dark outside, which is Sunset” AND “Some trigger” like motion or door open, “DO Something”. This functionality is already available and can create this scene in our mobile apps in a simple way using “advanced scenes” in the mobile apps. I did it under 1 minute …(I used a motion detector).
done.
thanks.
I wonder if you feel that you were entirely honest with the vera community when you arrived. I seem to remember many promises being made about stability and operating a professional business. Then suddenly I started seeing posts about Atom and seeing a new direction. I don’t remember any reference from Ezlo about us vera users being on a ‘dying platform’. As a more casual user that can barely spell API, using PLEG and Reactor to customize my 30 or so devices, I felt like the promises of stable releases and customer support were genuine. I learned quickly to never be on the cutting edge of installing new version releases. So, were you open and honest or did you simply discover that you had a nightmare on your hands and hoped you could migrate vera users rather than letting them know they were working with boat anchors that were about to be cut loose. In fact, are you being honest now or should we be expecting an EOL notice from you?
I believe I was honest.
The visionary who setup Vera was a chap called Aaron. In my view, although I only had small amount of time to engage with him, he came across as a “technical visionary” and I very much enjoyed interacting with him.
Here are some snippets from his email at the time when we were acquiring Vera:
Although you may be unaware, unfortunately as you will see from the email, it was a well known fact internally. Our decision was to do our best to “support it” until we delivered an alternative.
Please note, we didn’t have to do that! It cost me personally money! It still does, every day! Imagine, you didn’t pay me money when you bought your hub, BUT I am paying your costs so that you can continue running your hardware!
Both the cloud and FW had to be redone. It makes no sense to waste engineering $$ to rewrite something that is working and “good enough”…Whatever code we can reuse, we try our hardest to use it. Development is very expensive process, to -re-write something is never taken lightly!
In technology, things never stay still…and everything has a lifetime…even Operating Systems…Lets take a look at Microsoft Operating System evolution
As a home automation enthusiast myself, I totally understand the pain of pairing/unpairing, rewriting scenes…Heck, I can’t even find the device that controls my LED strips, Electrician was kind enough to bury it behind the sheet rock!!! Do you realize how impossible to press a button behind a sheet rock !!!
I want none of us to suffer from these problems that plagued the home automation industry for years! You have to be a tinkering hobbyist to get the basic stuff running. Install this plugin, tinker this, tune that…crazy!
You have to rely and pray that your main controller doesn’t die…
Home automation today is where Operating Systems were in 1975, good for tinkerers and hobbyists.
I am trying to change all this, for all of us!
It certainly is not easy nor is it cheap to deliver this vision! But I am committed to work and invest my money towards achieving this dream!
Up until ME the OS ran on bootstrapped DOS and I believe NT was the first OS where this wasn’t the case. And I think there is still DOS code in the 32 bit version of Windows 10 for emulation in a virtual environment. NTVDM contains a small subset of DOS functionality.
I believe you you can still launch DOS programs in Windows 7(32bit) and possibly the 32 bit version of 10.
And a lot of times in Windows DOS commands are more efficient.
I am a device driver (System) programmer from my old days…(Windows mainly…dabbled in Linux tiny bit)
I have seen the evolution of the internals of the OS from (3.1 when I started developing) till now…
But what point are you making? That its ok to use parts? If so I agree.
The problem to solve is not to “emulate” vera fw inside Ezlo fw.
The problem to solve is how to migrate Vera users to Ezlo FW (in some cases using their existing Vera Hardware) painlessly (if possible). What you are suggesting is only one of many potential solutions.
At the end of the day, its a question of “investment” . MS had to build backward compatibility due to investment made on the operating systems and what it meant for MS.
Don’t start me on efficiency!!! I could in early day start “typing on a word processor” much faster on my 386 days using “Works” than I can do today!!! Same feature eg: “typing on a screen” has gotten much faster CPU but it got much slower…WHY!!! We digress…
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