add vera to another vera

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#1

Hello guys

Here is my case
I have 2 floors house
My vera is in teh GF close to my door lock
My very left room z-wave devices in the FF are not responding :frowning:
unless i get my vera closer
so i decided to add vera lite to that room and some other rooms up especially for sensors

How do you suggest to do so in Z-wave
like to use the vera lite as a REPEATER

Thanx

#2

You can not use a vera as a repeater but have that Vera control those z-wave devices and incorporate that Vera into the other vera. Do a search for bridging veras, there are a few posts explaining how to do it.

See:

http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Bridged_Mios_Engines
http://docs5.mios.com/doc.php?language=1&manual=1&platform=3Lite&page=multiple_units

  • Garrett
#3

I know those ways, they relay on LAN Network
I want to bridge my veras via z-wave
like from add device and add vera
i want more information on that
I dont wanna loose all my network

#4

You can not bridge both veraā€™s z-wave network. That is why you have to use the bridging of the Mios Engines via the lan method.

  • Garrett
#5

Vera doesnā€™t work that way, but many native Z-Wave modules do. Can you not simply fill in the Z-wave network with a couple of modules (not battery powered) to increase the density of the mesh in a few strategic locations?

#6

Just get ā€œanyā€ z-wave module and put it half way on permanent power.

Maybe afibaro relais or something easy to hide, and you good to go.
Bring you one more thing to be z-waved and you bridge the gap.

Also quite alot cheaper as well.

#7

Another idea is to upgrade the antenna on your Vera, there are a number of posts on this forum about that and the results reported have been pretty good.

I recall many have spoken of distant nodes becoming responsive again.
So at $15-20 to do it (assuming you want to, due to warrant concerns) it would be much cheaper that buying two.

#8

What about this then (the attachment)

I will go with the options you have told me
I already have the other vera :smiley:

#9

I have no idea what functionality you get if you add another Vera as a secondary controller to an existing Z-Wave network. Do let us know.

#10

I have a project with 2 floors.

My option will be use 2 verasā€¦(like recommended by micasaverde)
1st I will go add to a vera all devices of floor 2ā€¦
2nd I will go add all devices of floor 1 to another veraā€¦
3rd I will choose the vera1 like masterā€¦and add another vera (the first one) using UPNPā€¦

I read I will can creates scenes in vera1 using devices of vera2ā€¦itā€™s for me will be good.

My doubt is when I need add another device to floor2 (slave vera) it will appears on vera master automatically ???

GARRETWP, is correct this steps above ??

thanks !

#11

You can have both veras be added to each other so that they show up on both. Any devices added to either will show up on the other automatically.

  • Garrett
#12

Garretwp, only this question more:

But Upnp bridge must be run 2 times, one in each vera ? or only in that I choose like master ?

thank you !!!

#13

If you want it in both directions, you need to follow the procedure on both.

  • Garrett
#14

Understood, thanks Garretwp !

#15

I tried this on 4 veras :smiley:
using upnp
it is a little bit slow bit it is working

#16

Therealabdo,
is slow the bridging process or after include when you trigger a scene using devices of the 2 veras ?

#17

after including

when triggering a scene

#18

Do you have all four veraā€™s included into each other both ways? The slowness could be the fact that all four are updating when changes are happening and you are taking a small performance hit.

  • Garrett
#19

My guess is that would work fine / you get the same functionality (but including/excluding needs to be done on the primary). Donā€™t know how node configuration and route optimization (ā€˜the nightly healā€™) is handled in that case.

Havenā€™t seen many reports on folks doing this, and havenā€™t tried myself. The preferred way is presumably bridging, so you get to manage everything (or most of it) on one Vera.

#20

After testing the network
All veras are working from the same master vera
(i did an add using upnp)
the problem is that it is SLOW!you know i am facing some delays
and I only added veras one way (all to one vera)

Today one of my devices (in vera #74) is not working from the master vera but another device from the same vera (vera #74) is working :frowning:
and both are working fine from thier original vera #74

Lesson learnt:
All cameras should be added to the Master vera. Otherwise you wonā€™t be able to see them from SQ Remote