Z-wave Keypad to open electric entry gate

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I’m thinking my only options at this point is a 4 button scene controller and alot of conditions. Anyone Got a better way.

I already have door locks on the house and I have cleaners, and other people that come and go. Each has pin code and I can of-course monitor and change them from away. I also already have a MIMOlite on the gate and that’s working great from my portable devices.

I currently use a wireless battery operated garage door opener in front of the gate and I can see when its opened, but not by who and I can’t change the pin codes from away. So thats what i’m looking to replace.

Ideally something Battery operated, outdoor (can put it in box), z-wave, pin code.

Thanks,

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My 1st idea is to use the same lock you have on your doors mounted on or at the gate just mount the keypad part and extend the wiring to a dry place for the battery compartment and boards then control the gate through scene scripting with the lock

The easier way would be to use an android device (always on and on a network) to handle the load of the user codes and gate control. Using tasker and autovera to watch for an ?open? msg from a valid user that msg could come from autoremote,text msg from a specific phone number or anything else the android device is capable of

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Yeah, I was thinking we might be able to mount an older (cheaper) Schlage or Kwikset keypad without using lock/handle mechanism… I wonder if we can find them on ebay cheap?

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You’ll probably get a ton of dead bolt errors and the keypad doesn’t send the unlock command if it’s unlocked already. So I’m thinking you need the bolt to be functional.

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4 button or more scene controller, multiswitch and pleg when buttons 123321 are pressed in that order within X secs open gate and send notification. If button 4 ever pressed and gate is open send command to close gate.

Use multiswitch if you need scene controller to move the switch then run pleg off the status of multiswitch.

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I don’t think the old versions know if the dead bolt is actually there since it is manual turn. Would be iterested to see if anyone with an old version can test this?

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With the android set up all your guests will have to do is send you text msg that says the magic word of your choice and your phone will Open the gate for them assuming they are on the list of approved numbers then you’ll have all of the logs and control with you at all times. If you already use android then it would only cost you a few dollars in apps and your done. Less hardware=less headache

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We know what you are saying, no need to repeat. The OP is asking for a Z-wave keypad to he can mount, thus lets try to keep it to what the goal is. I’m thinking it makes a lot of sense too… not sure why there are no basic Zwave keypads on the market. I’ve asked this question before.

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My apologies, I was only trying to help. I had forgotten why I stopped coming here. thanks for the reminder.

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OK, you stopped coming here because you were upset that people pointed out you gave only the same repetitive answer which was not addressing the specific question being asked then.

We are all happy to have people post that want to help, your posts included. If you want to presenting a tangent solution once, go for it. But to keep beating that drum which does not answer the OP’s goal, especially when what you posted is already known by most if not all in the community, is not helpful.

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[quote=“integlikewhoa, post:1, topic:180592”]I’m thinking my only options at this point is a 4 button scene controller and alot of conditions. Anyone Got a better way.[/quote] I truly believe that the android fix is a better way. If it is not I’d be interested in learning about a more functional and cost efficient way to accomplish this goal

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I see what you are saying here. It is better until someone steals your android off the wall, or breaks it. :wink:

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You might have a look at the BeNext Tag Reader which also has a numeric [ 1 2 3 4 ] Keypad to enter manual codes. Just search here for " Tag Reader ". If a manual code is all you need/want than it should suit you. But be warned, I just got mine some days ago and also pairing was okay (no major problems) I am not happy with the device. More on that in the other thread.

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On my system it would be my cell phone and if it were lost iwould simply change my mios password and my WiFi ssid/password.

@AaronYou mentioned earlier that you and most people here already knew this fix would not work. Which leads me to belive that you Dont understand how it works or how to use it. I’d be more than willing to walk through or help work through any tasker projects anyone has

I had my Vera 3 for about two years before I discovered tasker and the auto plugins. The addition of just one android device and these apps will seriously triple your current automation capabilities. I have been able to do some pretty amazing things with this combination like starting my jeep if the outdoor temp is below freezing, unlocking my front door and Controlling my cvac from my Pebble watch. I even have a live IP cam feed that I can touch the lights in the live feed to turn them on or off. Regardless of this set up, if you are not using tasker to complement your Vera you are more than likely missing out on a lot of really cool automation possibilities.

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I think you do not fully understand what the op asked for help with.

OP wants a keypad device that can be mounted on something, and do I also. Otherwise we’d simply use our phones, as most already do for personal use

Do you provide Vera app access to all your guests, gardeners, house keepers, etc? Or do you have a battery operated phone you are mounting to a wall that is cost effective, durable, not easily stolen, and has months of battery life?

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[quote=“Aaron, post:15, topic:180592”]I think you do not fully understand what the op asked for help with.

OP wants a keypad device that can be mounted on something, and do I also. Otherwise we’d simply use our phones, as most already do for personal use

Do you provide Vera app access to all your guests, gardeners, house keepers, etc? Or do you have a battery operated phone you are mounting to a wall that is cost effective, durable, not easily stolen, and has months of battery life?

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Just to quickly clear this up so that we can get back on track, what I think Ruetech was suggesting was NOT putting an android on the wall, but instead telling your guests that they can TEXT YOU with a “passkey” (say “Open Says Me!”) and your phone would have a list of approved Numbers. If that person is on the list and has the write phrase, the gate just opens (No matter where you are and as long as you have internet access). This would mean that no one would need

While I agree that perhaps having a keypad could be more beneficial (It would just be easier to schedule pins and the like), this approach does have it merits and I don’t necessarily see an issue with suggesting it. I do see at least one flaw with this though:

If I don’t have internet on my phone, this method fails. You could use a gvoice number though and track those SMS messages via a device in the house. This doesn’t guarantee it will have internet 100% of the time though. A Z-wave keypad should always work because there is no need for internet (only a strong enough signal for the keypad to reach the vera).

I would say that the suggestion is a good one, but I would NOT rely 100% on the texting method in this case. There is just too much that could stop it from going through (sometimes Text messages can be delayed for whatever reason). If anything, i would think you would want a manual override somewhere and a keypad is the best option for that (and retaining some sort of security).

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Here is a gate lock in development. Dont know what all it will do. http://econetcontrols.com/products.php

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I see the point of the text message but is it too unreliable. My yard guy cannot even get my name right… i would never expect him to remember to text me let alone remember the correct passphrase. And my house keeper is an old Italian Lady, does not have a smart phone and probably has no clue how to text.

100x easier to give them a gate code, which most people are used to doing. I make it something they will definitely know: last 4 digits of their own phone number, street address, etc

John, thanks for pointing to that. Good to know something is coming… though still does not help with a keypad needed at the door itself.

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Thanks, but won’t help in my case. I have a drive threw double swinging electric gate in the drive way when you pull up to the house.

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[quote=“Aaron, post:18, topic:180592”]I see the point of the text message but is it too unreliable. My yard guy cannot even get my name right… i would never expect him to remember to text me let alone remember the correct passphrase. And my house keeper is an old Italian Lady, does not have a smart phone and probably has no clue how to text.

100x easier to give them a gate code, which most people are used to doing. I make it something they will definitely know: last 4 digits of their own phone number, street address, etc[/quote]

I have this same problem. They have a code to get in the door and the gate now, I just can’t control the gate like I can the Front and back doors.

And if someone new pulls up that doesn’t have a gate code, I have to have them call me to open it, since I don’t want to give the same code out to multiple people and I’m away.