Yale Real Living Z Wave Module Reset With Controller

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I have a Yale Real Living Lock with Z Wave Module that I’ve tried everything to rid it of an old Z Wave Network I once had (and now long disposed of). Yet, seems whatever I try the Yale Lock will not allow an exclusion. When I try the Yale instructions to exclude on the device with a 7# then 3# the lock simply flashes a bunch of numbers (like I entered something wrong). It makes no attempt to exclude old z wave network.

Does anyone know how to force a clean of a Yale Real Living Z Wave module so that the lock presents the Inclusion option again. Right now I am unable to include these expensive locks into my new VERA Edge Z Wave network. Would be a shame to throw these away simply due to upgrading from VERA LITE to VERA EDGE.

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Hi NewYorkAutomate,

It sounds like the lock is already unenrolled from a Zwave network. Did you try to see if the 1 # option is available?

As a last resort did you reset the main lock using the reset button? This will wipe out all the programming.

-bob

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Hi Bob -

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately Option 1# for enrollment is not appearing, only #3 (un-enroll) which leads me to thinking Z Wave module is still enrolled in my old Vera-Lite controller (which is unfortunately destroyed so can’t use it to un-enroll).

I have tried a hard factory reset of the lock, but this did nothing to the Z WAVE module, simply factory reset all the other Yale Lock settings (such as master code and user codes).

So Yale Real Living Lock with present Z Wave Module seems stuck in an old Z Wave network which I can’t seem to un-enroll. I read on Smarthings that their Hub/controllers are able to override other foreign Z Wave networks and force en-enroll of devices including Yale Real Living Locks. I’d hate to have to purchase a SmartThings Hub/Controller just for the sole purpose of en-enrolling this Lock… Does Vera have any back doors to doing something similar to how Samsung worked un-enroll for foreign Z Wave networks out?

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[quote=“NewYorkAutomate, post:3, topic:191869”]Hi Bob -

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately Option 1# for enrollment is not appearing, only #3 (un-enroll) which leads me to thinking Z Wave module is still enrolled in my old Vera-Lite controller (which is unfortunately destroyed so can’t use it to un-enroll).

I have tried a hard factory reset of the lock, but this did nothing to the Z WAVE module, simply factory reset all the other Yale Lock settings (such as master code and user codes).

So Yale Real Living Lock with present Z Wave Module seems stuck in an old Z Wave network which I can’t seem to un-enroll. I read on Smarthings that their Hub/controllers are able to override other foreign Z Wave networks and force en-enroll of devices including Yale Real Living Locks. I’d hate to have to purchase a SmartThings Hub/Controller just for the sole purpose of en-enrolling this Lock… Does Vera have any back doors to doing something similar to how Samsung worked un-enroll for foreign Z Wave networks out?[/quote]

I had this happen once and it turned out the zwave module was bad. I got another module and then it worked fine, both enroll and un-enroll…

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You do not need the old Vera to unpair, it can be unpaired using you new Vera…

It us unclear from the first post how you are doing the option as you do not state you are setting the new Vera to exclude a device and then hit the lock keys as you have already detailed.

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I also am having the same problem with two brand new locks…one was working and the other would not join the network and I also could not get it to unpair so I reset the Z Wave chip in my VeraPlus…how both units will only show the option 3 no matter what I do…this is super annoying

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Alright, so I was able to talk to my Yale rep and my Vera rep…here is the solution for the problem so that you all do not have to go through the frustration that we did…

Step 1) Log into your VeraPlus and go to your devices

  1. Add a generic z wave device

  2. It will begin the countdown to add a new device…you do not have to wait for that to happen just click Retry…this puts your VeraPlus into exclusion mode

  3. Go to your door lock, type in your master code then go to 7, hit three and then hit the pound key–you will get a message telling you exclusion is successful

  4. The VeraPlus will then automatically go back into the countdown to add a new device…go back into your master mode on your lock, hit 7 and 1 will be available again…hit1 and then the pound key and the VeraPlus will re-register the device.

  5. Drink a large beer

Hope this helps save someone the massive frustration that I dealt with last night trying to get the lock to go back to the registration mode

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Thanks so much for posting that solution! I had the same problem, and it was driving me crazy. Adding the Generic and excluding it did the trick for me.

THANKS!!

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+1

I just stumbled through this with a Yale lock I bought used. I was able to essentially complete these steps through guess work, now that I read it, I realize these were the steps that cleared my lock and allowed me to pair it with my veraEdge.

Thanks for posting the solution.

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I just stumbled across your post while searching for “YRD210 exclusion not working”. I must’ve read 25 other posts before I finally got here to THE ANSWER. Thank you!

I’m gradually migrating my 200+ Z-wave devices from a 10-year-old Vera Plus (and before that a Vera 3) to Home Assistant. First of all, I didn’t have a clue what my Yale master code was after all these years, so did the “factory reset” procedure. But that doesn’t clear the Z-wave network from its separate Z-wave module.

But I was able to use the master code and my still-functioning Vera Plus to properly exclude it, so I was starting off afresh.

But then when I was including it into my HA Z-wave network (using an Aeotec Z-Stick 10 Pro), I stupidly neglected to select the “Use security if possible” (or some wording to that effect), and so it included it without security enabled. The lock was included into my HA Z-wave network and it initially looked OK, but then I realized that it had no COMMANDS associated with it – like to lock or unlock the door! I tried a “re-interview”, which caused no errors but didn’t find any new commands.

At this point, I realized my mistrake of not using a secure mode inclusion, so thought I’d simply exclude it and re-include it again in SECURE mode. Ha! It simply would not exclude; always timing out, no matter how many times I tried with the magic master code#7 process, and no matter how close I brought my Z-Wave dongle to the lock. I was able to FORCE remove it from my HA configuration, but the lock’s Z-Wave module insisted that it was still paired so would not re-pair to anything else.

Then I found your post above and it was the magic bullet. Even though the lock’s Z-wave network was most recently paired with my HA’s dongle, the Vera Plus exclusion process was able to get the lock’s z-wave module reset. Yay!

And then I was finally able to re-include it into my HA network (in SECURE mode!) … which quickly found the proper lock/unlock commands as well as the battery indicator and some other goodies. All is well again.

So your post from a DECADE AGO still offered great value to this one more person. Thanks again!

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