What does the Veraplus get you over the Veraedge?
Twice as much memory … and that’s important if you like to use PLUGINS …
Not needed if you are just going to use Z-Wave devices, or devices attached to an alarm system.
It has support for Bluetooth and Zigbee … but that does not buy you much now, maybe in the future.
is there some way of gauging at what point one has enough plugins to consider the plus over the edge? i’d imagine everyone uses some number of plugins to get any use out of these things…
When the Edge stsrts crashing/rebooting 
roughly how many PLEG devices is that? 
For 40.00 its worth the memory/ RAM. Then there is slightly faster cpu speed, Bluetooth and zigbee radios (which will mean more as time goes on).
I ran 8 PLEG/PLTS plugins on UI5 on a Vera 3 (same memory as an Edge)
I also have a few other plugins … That was already stressing the Vera 3 … UI7 uses a little more memory than UI5 … So I do not think the Edge would have worked for me …
roughly how many PLEG devices is that? :D[/quote]
I doubt that multiple Plegs take much more memeory than one large one. I imagine it is the number of triggers and conditions inside them that count (but thats just my guess). I think it will be more on how many different plug ins you use that make the difference.
Either way, if you dont have either then go for the Plus as future proofing insurance. If you already have the Edge then stick with it until you need to change.
HI,
I asked the same question not too long ago. One of the veterans here convinced me to get the Plus for a number of reasons. I did get the Plus.
My third device was a GE Link bulb which works great on Zigbee. For me the added radio alone was a good reason to go for the Plus.
Regards
JohnRob
One of the hidden “advantages” of the Plus was that it forced me to rebuild my Z-Wave network.
Yeah, I didn’t like it either, but since the rebuild… my Vera Plus has been running like a toaster. A downside is I don’t get to visit this forum as much as I like anymore! LOL
It’s the same thing with your PC; you keep loading the new OS over the old one, hoping that everything “works”. When you finally get through the five(?) steps (starting with denial), you reformat, reload the OS, reload your apps, and voila… new PC.
Hi,
Just to dig this old thread up again to ask the same question. The VeraPlus is now available in Australia. What would be some Pro’s/Con’s for upgrading from my current VeraEdge controller?
I noticed above that a year ago the extra bluetooth and zigbee radios would be useful in the ‘future’… so is the future here yet? is there anything useful that these could be used for now?
Cheers,
Josh
Hey, I’m from Germany and the plus is in sale for a while now. I’m still on my edge cause I only use z wave and the simple scenes from Vera work for me without Pleg. But I’m interested to play around and still think about Zigbee or Bluetooth … but it’s not needed. So it depends on your ideas and your wish to try things out.
- Vera Edge has the smallest form factor between all Vera units, and includes 128MB of RAM memory, WiFi, one USB port, latest generation of Z-Wave Plus chip
- VeraPlus comes stronger, has more protocols built in ( Zwave/ZigBee/Bluetooth), has one ethernet port (WAN), latest generation of Z-Wave Plus chips, it has twice the RAM memory and dual-core processor
For spec guys: Comparison of Vera units - MiOS
I have a Vera Plus and it’s complete, but in my case, I had unstable signal problems because of grand walls, the controller does not have a connector to apply external antenna.
I had to weld an SMA connector (at the expense of the Warranty) to solve the zwave signal problem, now it has a range of 40m after the walls and is very powerful and stable. 8)
Instead, the Vera Edge has IPEX attachment and it would be easier to apply an external antenna to extend the signal.
I’ve tested Vera Plus after I had issues with Edge and in my case I went back to Edge.
The main reason was that I use the controller at the location where it is connected to the router via WiFi and the router doesn’t have static IP option. This caused some issues in case where connection was lost (i.e. power down) and needed to be re-established. I don’t remember if newer versions of firmware solved this issue or not.
For other things from my experience, pros and cons for Plus over Edge are following (with comments):
Pros:
- More memory and CPU power: this will be visible mainly during the configuration (faster reactions) and if you use many plugins. For daily work you won’t see much difference.
I have Edge setup with 92 devices (35 physical, rest are their slaves/subs or other interfaces), and 10 plugins (including those non-removable Sercomm camera and Alexa Helper). This configuration is reliable in daily use, and I consider it as a quite big setup. - Zigbee: take into consideration that real use of it depends form device to device. Some Zigbee devices work, some partially, some don’t, some need bridging with Vera their own hub, which is also possible with Edge. If you already have some Zigbee devices or have cheap supply on the market and want to try, then it might be advantage. If you want to buy new devices, I would advice use Z-wave versions.
-WiFi: I’m not sure, but if I understand correctly, Plus can act as a WiFi router, which is not possible in Edge. At least my unit established it’s own WiFi network, regardless that it was connected to the router over WiFi as well. Although I would not recommend using it as a router for computers and web browsing, It can be useful if you want to integrate some WiFi devices with Wera (i.e. WiFi switches). It will allow you to keep traffic directly between Vera and the device, without a router in between. And the Plus’ WiFi supports ac revision and both 2,5/5GHz, while Edge is maximum “n” and 2,5GHz only - Antenna: In general Plus have more powerful Z-wave antenna than Edge, so it is easier to reach distant devices directly (which can be a topic i.e. for locks). From the other hand, if you want to take a chance you can modify Edge’s antenna quite easily (open the box, detach pigtail from built-in antenna, attach new with external antenna connector, close the box, attach antenna), while modifying Plus in such way needs soldering and a little more experience to not break it during the process. Remember that in both cases you loose your warranty by such modification.
Cons:
- Bigger: Plus is c.a. twice as big as Edge is.
- More expensive: the regular price is c.a. 50% more than the price for Edge is. As Edge is more popular on the market, it is easier to buy cheaper second hand device - most of them used, but there are new ones as well (i.e. not appreciated gifts). This may be an option if you don’t have time pressure for making a purchase.
Mixed:
- Bluetooth - for now you can’t even add any device via bluetooth (this option disappeared from last firmwares due to some change in Vera approach about it and I don’t know if it was turned back already).
Conclusion:
If you need CPU power and/or use many plugins/lot of devices, buy Plus. In other cases, Edge should be enough.
CHeers all for your input.
Given that use of ZigBee and the Bluetooth seem to not be favourable, ill stick with the Edge i already have for now.
I generally just have basic scenes and not alot of plugins. Plus i still havent taken the time to do anything/learn how to use PLEG except to install it…
Thanks for everyones 2c.
JB