Vera & UPnP

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I have recently noticed Vera showing up under Network in Vista. When I double click on it, I get a link to http://192.168.1.100:49451/URL%20for%20presentation which obviously doesn’t go anywhere. On the properties of it, I see this

I’ve never really used UPnP before so I’m not real sure what the desired affect of it being in the Network panel is, but i’m sure it’s not to goto a page that does nothing.

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That’s an intriguing development, Boyo. It appears your Windows Vista machine detected Vera through Universal Plug 'n Play… is Vera your primary/only router on the home network?

Using Windows XP Pro, I tried to replicate this kind of “network connection” or “network place” by adding Vera’s IP address directly, but only got as far as being asked for a login/password at a certain point … and none of my credentials worked (neither the FindVera li/pw nor any of the “Users” set up within Vera).

So I assume Vista is simply more promiscuous or nosy than XP.

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Nope, I can see my Linksys router in there too.

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I checked and see that Vera’s internal UPnP setting is “uninstalled” (see Vera’s Advanced > Net & Wi-Fi > Advanced Configuration > Network > UPnP).

Meanwhile, what’s your LinkSys router say under Administration > UPnP? Enabled?

Just curious now.

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Below is Intel’s UPNP browser. Install it, choose Device Spy, and then you’ll see all your Z-Wave devices, Insteon/X10 devices, and i/r, as well as plugins (GC100, etc.), and can control them with UPnP.

http://download.controlmyhouse.net/inteltoolsforupnptechnology.zip

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Interesting, I wonder if there’s a way to get windows to do that without additional software.

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UPnP is enabled in my router. And the file you linked to doesn’t seem to work on Vista 64.

Edit:
Found this when I was searching for a newer version

I did however find one that works from Intel’s site

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UPnP is enabled in my router. And the file you linked to doesn't seem to work on Vista 64.... I did however find one that works from Intel's site

I checked the file you referenced from Intel’s site, and it’s the same file as the we posted on our site (md5sum’s are the same). Either link should work on Vista 64.

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I have a question,

When i acces my vera2 (1245) through Windows Explorer, tab Network i get to see vera and its icon twice.

Once under Camera’s and once under Home Automation (see screenshot).

When i doubleclick the icon Windows takes me to the UPnP presented page, which looks like this:

http://192.168.xxx.xxx:49451/URL%20for%20presentation

There, my browser doesnt find the expected HTML page and renders a “404 Not Found” message.

Anyone any idea of:

  1. What the use of this page could be (if not accessing the UI)
  2. How this could be solved.
  3. Why Vera presents itself as a Homeautomation AS WELL as a Camera device over UPnP?

Hope to get some clues from you guys!

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It looks like Vera’s [tt][/tt] tag is just wrong …

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[quote=“Ap15e, post:10, topic:164817”]UPnP Presentation (Windows CE 5.0) | Microsoft Learn

It looks like Vera’s [tt][/tt] tag is just wrong …[/quote]

@Ap15e

Ok, i should file it as a bug then?

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Please file a bug report.

Vera ([tt]/www/upnp/vera.xml[/tt]) is in violation of the UPnP standard (UPnP™ Device Architecture 1.1., Document Revision Date 15 October 2008, section 2.3).

Another strange line from [tt]vera.xml[/tt]:

base URL for all relative URLsNot sure what this needs to be but it wont work with it here

That might be one reason for Vera not being detected by Intel’s UPnP DeviceSpy.

I’m quite astonished that a product that is based on UPnP doesn’t get its own device description right … :o

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Has this been addressed?

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@Quixote

I created a bug report for it, so its on the list of things to fix by MCV

For the status you can track:
http://bugs.micasaverde.com/view.php?id=1487

  • Henk
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Thank you, Henk.

I don’t understand how this issue could be qualified as being low priority when it’s one of its main features.
I just convinced someone to build a UPnP plugin for a prominent home automation software and now it appears that it will be unusable with it as planned because the Vera is not working as advertised.
:-\