I know I’m missing something silly, but I cannot find the right instructions…
I have an existing setup with VeraLite ui5. I do not want to transfer the network. I want a clean install using Vera Edge ui7. So I’m disassociating modules one at a time from my old network (lite) to the new network (edge).
I have successfully added the VistaCamPT (after disassociated from lite) and a brand new Aeon Labs minimote (dsa03202) that was never associated with the previous network.
Now I want to try adding inwall switches (GE/jasco 45637), which are the bulk of my old network. I’ve disassociated the lights in one room from the old network, but I’m stumped as to how to associate them with the Vera Edge. The Edge does not “see” the switch while in include mode from about 5 feet away. The Edge appears to be tethered to the power supply, so I’m not sure how to bring it into range to include the wall switches (which obviously cannot be moved). I also don’t see my specific wall switches listed, so I’m assuming I should use “generic z-wave device” (as I did for the minimote).
I’m a new VeraEdge user but haven’t run into any issues adding devices. Last night I installed a Leviton DZS15 switch and I used the Generic Zwave option when adding it and it picked it up immediately, my VeraEdge was about 100ft away or so when including the switch. I just did a factory reset on the switch and then put it into include mode. Not sure if this would be any different with the Jasco switch.
[quote=“daneg, post:1, topic:186559”]I know I’m missing something silly, but I cannot find the right instructions…
I have an existing setup with VeraLite ui5. I do not want to transfer the network. I want a clean install using Vera Edge ui7. So I’m disassociating modules one at a time from my old network (lite) to the new network (edge).
I have successfully added the VistaCamPT (after disassociated from lite) and a brand new Aeon Labs minimote (dsa03202) that was never associated with the previous network.
Now I want to try adding inwall switches (GE/jasco 45637), which are the bulk of my old network. I’ve disassociated the lights in one room from the old network, but I’m stumped as to how to associate them with the Vera Edge. The Edge does not “see” the switch while in include mode from about 5 feet away. The Edge appears to be tethered to the power supply, so I’m not sure how to bring it into range to include the wall switches (which obviously cannot be moved). I also don’t see my specific wall switches listed, so I’m assuming I should use “generic z-wave device” (as I did for the minimote).
Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.[/quote]
I don’t have an edge but the lite has batteries. Doesn’t the edge have a battery compartment so you can bring it closer?
well this does not bode well. I was able to add and remove them from vera lite easy as pie, but alas, neither of the generic z-wave options are showing any sort of activity.
I was hoping that there was a battery compartment that I was simply unaware of. but it sounds as if the edge is designed to include from range.
update: it’s adding them now. user error all the way. I thought simply deleting them through the ui was all I had to do. I had to go around to each one and reset the switches themselves with the old vera unit.
[quote=“tomtcom, post:3, topic:186559”][quote=“daneg, post:1, topic:186559”]I know I’m missing something silly, but I cannot find the right instructions…
I have an existing setup with VeraLite ui5. I do not want to transfer the network. I want a clean install using Vera Edge ui7. So I’m disassociating modules one at a time from my old network (lite) to the new network (edge).
I have successfully added the VistaCamPT (after disassociated from lite) and a brand new Aeon Labs minimote (dsa03202) that was never associated with the previous network.
Now I want to try adding inwall switches (GE/jasco 45637), which are the bulk of my old network. I’ve disassociated the lights in one room from the old network, but I’m stumped as to how to associate them with the Vera Edge. The Edge does not “see” the switch while in include mode from about 5 feet away. The Edge appears to be tethered to the power supply, so I’m not sure how to bring it into range to include the wall switches (which obviously cannot be moved). I also don’t see my specific wall switches listed, so I’m assuming I should use “generic z-wave device” (as I did for the minimote).
Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.[/quote]
I don’t have an edge but the lite has batteries. Doesn’t the edge have a battery compartment so you can bring it closer?[/quote]
Neither the VERA 3 or the EDGE have batteries. Also most people don’t know 95% of the time you don’t need to move the Vera closer to the device despite the instructions of 3 feet.
Both on my LITE and now on the EDGE I leave it plugged in where it is and do the inclusion. It also help setup the mesh network and routing correctly from the start vs. running a repair or heal after to re do routing now that the switch is no longer 3 foot from the controller.
The z-wave devices also store the controller information in them. If you ever buy used switches the same is required.
And usually if you remove then from the UI only, after a restart the device talks again with the controller and it re adds the device automatically back to the UI.
Glad to see you got it all working. And smart move on the starting from scratch for the EDGE upgrade.
Something else I recently discovered about the vera edge and the z-wave Plus or Gen 5 as it is sometimes referred to. I lifted this below from cepro.com that has been the only place I have found a good description. Interesting that it was optional on older z-wave devices due to limitations of the HW capacity.
The other significant improvement is the ginormous increase in flash memory on the new 500 Series SoCs.
?With the expanded non-volatile memory, developers are no longer limited as to which Z-Wave protocol features to implement while trying to leave enough memory free for their application,? says Walters. ?Instead of deciding if they wanted to include something like Network Wide Inclusion (NWI or ?Plug N Play?) at the expense of code space for their application, they now have more than enough memory to include all available protocol extensions and still have ample room for their applications code.?
NWI, aka ?Plug N Play? is an interesting feature ? available only as an option in ?classic? Z-Wave, but as a requirement in Z-Wave Plus.
In the earlier generations of Z-wave, the devices had to be enrolled in close proximity to one another.
?This means basically that you don?t have to program the devices before installing them,? says Linear?s Rosenthal. ?Now, you can install them around the home and then add them and configure the network all at once from a central location.?
Devices are discovered by communicating through other nodes in the network. The network also will heal itself if a node dies, is disabled or moved ? previously a major pain point for tech-support centers.
Rosenthal says, ?This is a big difference between Z-wave and ZigBee. And a big advantage.?
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