Vera + Aeon Multisensor 6 - light on motion and light level

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Hello! I have configured a very simple action - turns on the lights on motion. Using scene in Vera. This involves Multisensor and Fibaro RGBW controller. In theory it should be working fine, but on practice I’m experiencing delays sometimes, in some cases I need to “dance” in front of the sensor to have lights on. It’s not far from the hub - only some 5 meters. Currently running on power (tried on battery as well). Sensitivity set to 5. I have 2 multisensors, to tried both to exclude a possible issue with the sensor. Same issue with Light off scene - it just turns off when I’m in the kitchen and moving. I have set a scene to turn off the light 7 minutes after there is no motion detected (whether armed or disarmed). As I understand it will be wise to connect these sensors directly, but can’t really get how to do it. Do I need to create a group? I’ve created one and I have “set” and “view” options with device list and text fields near. Also can I use light level in this association? So the light goes on on motion with light level below 20 lux.

I’m new to these topics, really hope on a help from community. Maybe there’s something very simple I don’t understand yet.

Thanks!

P.S. Vera Hub system version 1.7.2406

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First, look in the manual, page 19, it lists all the configuration settings.

  1. Variable (parameter) 4 (the one you have set to 5) is to enable or disable the motion sensor. set it to 1.
  2. Add a new configuration setting, variable: 6, size: 1 byte decimal, desired value: enter 1 to 127 (where 127 is the maximum sensitivity)

you can add a group 1 with your light switch.

Note that any change, you will need to wakeup your Aeon 6, see manual.

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Thanks Sely! The weird thing is that the parameter 4 was set to 5 by default after I initially connect the multisensor, I didn’t change anything. As you see it says - “4-PIR sensitivity (0=disable 1-5=low-high)”. Ok, anyway, I have changed it to 1, pressed save, but it’s still 5 (the popup said “changes saved successfully”) . Also added parameter Nr 6. No need for wakeup cause it runs on power. Something’s not working correctly here.

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your screen shot is showing that the Aeon isn’t getting the data. You should show values in the current and currently spots. Perhaps someone else can help.

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I needed to wake it up actually. Didn’t know that even when wired I need to wake it up. The value has changed. Now I’ve checked the parameters from the manual, a question here - parameter 3 default is set to 240 seconds, as I understand this is the one that reports no motion. What I had set up in Vera was a 7 minutes delay to turn off the light. So actually it was 11 minutes, is that correct? In fact I believe it’s more wise to change the parameter value 3 to the desired one, not setting the delay in Vera, correct? Cause I feel that something isn’t working correctly with that delay set in Vera - probably after no motion info is sent Vera starts counting 7 minutes and if during these 7 minutes motion is detected timer actually continues till it turns off the light. Please correct my if my thinking and understanding is wrong :slight_smile:

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So actually it was 11 minutes, is that correct?
I don’t know for sure, I always just use the devices off delay.

…value 3 to the desired one, not setting the delay in Vera, correct?
I always use the motion sensor delay. I try to do as little programming as possible in Vera, a old habit from when I had a Lite with minimal memory.

…correct my if my thinking and understanding is wrong.
Sorry I am having a little trouble understanding what you are trying to describe.

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Yes, it was 11 minutes in total, 4 minutes on the sensor + 7 minutes delay set in Vera. Anyway ow working much better.

Now I’m trying to understand direct association - all I need to do is set it to Group 1? And I need to do the same on Fibaro relay? For example I add Group with id = 1. Then I have “Set to” option with list of devices. I need to check Fibaro relay? When I check it there is a text box near it, what do I need to put there? Should I still create the scene in Vera if I set association?

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all I need to do is set it to Group 1? YES

And I need to do the same on Fibaro relay? NO, you only set association in the AEON, it is the controlling device

devices. I need to check Fibaro relay? YES

what do I need to put there? I don’t know never use it.

Should I still create the scene in Vera if I set association? Setting a association replaces the need to write a scene if you are just turning a light on and off with a motion detector. The only time I use a scene is if I want the light to turn on and off when its dark outside.

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Indeed it works. Now the light turns on faster. I’ve also added parameter 3 to send an off command to fibaro relay. Works fine.

Now trying to understand how to use the light level in this association. I’d like both on and off commands only being transfer if the light level is below 20 lux. The same scenario is described here on Fibaro + Everspring example: http://www.vesternet.com/resources/application-notes/apnt-16#.WHuzRvl97IV So I need to find an alternative of parameter 5 in Aeon manual. And unfortunately I don’t see such a parameter in Aeon manual. What am I missing?