Greetings Vera Users, I currently am running a Vera 3 with firmware 1.5.622 .
I have a good size implementation with 145 devices, 114 scenes, and 11 apps. I recently have removed my Netatmo Weather Station from the system as it was responsible for 47 additional devices (so previously, I had 192 devices).
Recently, I have been having problems with the system - losing devices, losing some devices programming (ie, multi key controllers), etc. I think I may have been running into a memory issue. So, eliminating the Netatmo removed a lot of devices.
I am wondering, if it would be better to migrate to the Vera Edge. Moving to the Vera Edge would force me over to UI 7 as well. I see in the Vera Edge specs that it supports 220 devices, while the Vera 3 supports 200. Obviously, this does not factor in the number of scenes or the number of apps installed.
Does anyone have suggestions or would it be more prudent to wait for an even more powerful Vera device?
For your purpose, the edge and the 3 having the same amount of memory is unlikely to make any difference to you… Given the number of issues UI7 still has, I would even stay away. I went from a Vera Lite to and edge which doubled my memory. What seems to matter is the number of virtual devices and apps you are running. Without adding anything I can see now that my free memory hovers around 60-70mb which confirms that I was marginal. Are you experiencing any crash of the entire system? If you are “only” loosing devices, you may just have some memory corruption problems which means that changing out your vera 3 for another one could fix it.
Thanks for your response. My system does suffer from a number restarts throughout the day. I have a Vera Lite running at a vacation property and it behaves much better. At the separate property, the VeraLite numbers are as follows: 138 devices, 105 scenes, 8 apps [includes Netatmo app and 47 child devices], and running UI 5.
On the Vera3, some devices get renamed (actually truncated), a particular devices I cannot delete (even with using the web command), and my Enerwave ZWN-SC7 scene controllers seem to keep losing their programming. Additionally, just last week I had lost the firmware on the unit and had to recover it. Fortunately, I had a recent backup and the recovery went smoothly.
Since this morning after I removed the Netatmo app along with its 47 Child devices, this system appears more responsive and running smoothly. However, it usually takes 24 to 48 hours for the problems to show themselves. Your comment about the memory corruption is interesting. I do have another spare Vera 3 that I could replace with to see if it resolves the problem. But, I won’t be able to test that for two weeks as it is at the other property.
I have a ticket opened with Vera, but am waiting on their response.
I just checked my memory utilization. It appears to have some free; however, I do see the 114% utilization for /usr/bin/LuUPnP . Could this be part of the problem? Otherwise, I am seeing ~84mb used with ~43mb free.
Your memory utilization is definitely on the high side. The Luup exceeding 100% will cause crashes. It is the reason why I upgraded. You probably want to look for virtual device and app reduction…
Ok, I am taking your wise advice! I have reduced the apps from 11 to 7. This also reduced my number of devices by a handful (down to 129 devices). I could eliminate a handful of timers devices if needed.
I am now seeing my memory at about 89%. I will be curious to see how well the system behaves now!
[quote=“TimSRQ, post:6, topic:187797”]Ok, I am taking your wise advice! I have reduced the apps from 11 to 7. This also reduced my number of devices by a handful (down to 129 devices). I could eliminate a handful of timers devices if needed.
I am now seeing my memory at about 89%. I will be curious to see how well the system behaves now![/quote]
Hi–
Care to share how your system is now behaving at 89% utilization? Thanks
The Vera 3 System is behaving quite well. However, I still do get occassional reboots. I am hovering in the high 70% memory range which I know is still too high. I would like to get it in the 60’s, but I am struggling with that.
Removing 5 apps had the most impact. I have modified the system to use much more LUA code. I have created many scenes that now call other scense via LUA. This has GREATLY simplified managing the sytem. I removed many larger scenes that became unnecessary because of this approach. However, just by chance I still have the same number of scenes as before.
Also, I removed my Netatmo weather station app as this generated an awfully large number of devices because of three extensive weather stations. I also found that I did not use the integration with Vera as much as I thought I would. However, I would gladly add it back if I had much more memory available.
[ul][li]]132 devices [32 are nest thermostat and nest smoke detector related!][/li]
[li]114 scenes[/li]
[li]6 apps[/li][/ul]
I can’t wait for a more powerful Vera controller with more memory! I have used both ADTPulse and Alarm.com. They both work reasonably ok with a couple of devices and a couple of schedules/rules. But, I cannot even imagine controlling a home automation system with this number of devices with either of these systems.
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