Thanks again for the detailed reply.
This is a great idea, turns out there is a way to create a “virtual” device in Wink
[quote=“cybrmage, post:4, topic:190536”]First… There is no known way to create a virtual device in Wink. You can simulate a virtual device in Wink, but does require a real device…
- Take a Z-Wave device that you have in Vera (of the same type as you want the “virtual” device to appear as in Wink), and excude it from the Vera. (This will change and invalidate any references to the device in scenes, etc on Vera)
- Add the Device to your Wink account. Make sure to name the device so that you can recognize it as a virtual device).
- Remove the device from the Wink network (DO NOT use the Wink Account to do this!). You can either factory reset the device, or use the Vera Add device wizard to force the device to exclude (by allowing the add device wizard to time out, then following the instructions to exclude the device).
- Add the device back to the Vera. You can then repair any scenes that used the device.
After doing this, the device will appear in your Wink account, but it is not controllable and will always show as offline, but it’s state will be controllable manually. If you do not have the plugin’s “exclude zwave” option enabled, this dummy device will also have a Vera device created for it.[/quote]
[quote=“cybrmage, post:4, topic:190536”]First… Let be clear…
- The Wink Shortcuts are exposed in Vera a a Binary Switch type device
- This Vera device can be used as a trigger in a Vera scene.
So this issue is NOT that the plugin does not allow Wink Shortcuts to trigger Vera scenes.
The issue is that the mechanism does not appear to operate the way you desire it to work.[/quote]
Possibly I was not completely clear and this has lead to confusion on this, I understand what you have stated, the issue is that if you:
- Create a Shortcut in Wink
- The Resync the Plugin and the Plugin creates a device in Vera that is a Binary Switch (same name as Shortcut in Wink)
- The Binary Switch in Vera can then be set as a Trigger for a Scene in Vera
- When I execute the Shortcut in Wink, the state of that switch being activated, is not communicated to Vera (at least in testing waiting for about 5 minutes)
Therefore a Wink Shortcut, that the Plug In creates a Binary Switch for in Vera cannot act as a Scene Trigger in Vera (at least reliably) when executed from Wink. This may be due to the Wink API, or other reasons, but it remains that the state of the Binary Switch in Vera, while being able to be chosen as a Scene Trigger in Vera, does not report the state of the Binary Switch appropriately to trigger the Scene in Vera when executed from Wink (at least in my systems).
Are you saying in your experience the Wink Shortcut, when executed from Wink, that the associated Binary Switch in Vera should trigger the Vera Scene and update properly and in a reasonable time in Vera to allow this? The problem I was highlighting assumes that the Binary Switch in Vera does not trigger the scene in Vera properly, if this is supposed to work, it is not for me.
[quote=“cybrmage, post:4, topic:190536”]I think you are confusing “devices” and “shorcuts”…
You associate a device with a shortcut… Activating the shortcut will activate the device…
Activating the device does NOT activate the shortcut…[/quote]
I am not confusing Devices and Shortcuts (it actually seems more like you are confusing Vera Scenes with Wink Shortcuts in how you read my comments); What I was trying to say is, if I need to include a ZWave device in a Wink shortcut, that I can then use as a Trigger in Vera for a scene, every time that Device (which is included in the Wink Shortcut and is also used as a Trigger for the Vera Scene) changes state to the state I referenced in the Scene Trigger in Vera, that associated Scene will execute in Vera. So for example:
- Wink Shortcut - Wink Bedtime - Includes ZWave Light - Stairs - set to On
- Stairs - ZWave Light in Wink Shortcut is turned on when Wink Shortcut is executed
- Vera Scene - Vera Bedtime - Trigger is set for Stairs → On
If set up as above then every time I turn the Stairs to On regardless of how, Vera will execute the Vera Bedtime scene.
Thanks again, really appreciated the responses and the Plugin. If the Wink Shortcut can be used as a Trigger for a Vera Scene, when triggered from Wink then I might have some system issues, but if not the work around you proposed seems like a good choice for how to achieve what I am trying to do.