Smoke-Detector Flex Control SF812

I ordered 3 Smoke-detectors ,

Anyone some experience ?, Can I easy direct link the smoke detector to the other one.

regards

Have not seen them before… Where did you buy them?

http://www.ezhome.nl in the Netherlands

http://www.ezhome.nl/z-wave-security-c-96/flex-control-z-wave-rookmelder-p-320

regards

Hi,

Did some tests with Smoke-Detector Flex Control SF812 but unfortunately not working yet.

a. Alll classes are not always recognized by Vera ( COMMAND_CLASS_MANUFACTURER_SPECIFIC )
b. Association mode not working, When one smoke detectors sounds the other should then sound also.
c. poll error

Also a scene ( wit an event) is not working, when smoke detector alerts or press test button the light should be switch on.

Anyone some expierence with Smoke-Detector Flex Control SF812 (Manufacturer Everspring)

As far as I know, it needs a very new Z-Wave lib.

The new Aeon sticks (the one form my Vera) work with a new Homesser beta and the Smoke detector.

I had one for a little test. http://zwaves.dk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=522 (In danish, so google translate. :slight_smile: )

Does anyone know any news about the Everspring Smoke detector and Vera? Are they able to trigger a scene then one of them detects smoke? If one detector sounds, does all the detectors sound?

Hello, I have one, well integrated using Vera. Unfortunately, There is no event sent to eva. Nothing triggered when smoke alarm.

Today does’nt run.

Anyone have any updates on this? Can they trigger a scene?

I didn’t manage to get mine to work (ZWave version 3.20 L:1, Vera on firmware 1.1.1245). It seems to be added correctly to the network, Vera reports it as a smoke sensor and shows the battery level as well, but no event or notification is triggered when the alarm goes off. The supplier suggested that the smoke detector doesn’t send a command when pressing the test button, so I tried setting off the alarm using a burning bit of paper, but that wasn’t it either.

Any chance of this device being supported in the near future?

I would suggest to contact MCV on this request. They would need either a device to test or have your logs setup for them to look at your data.

  • Garrett

@intveltr, I have the same set up (versions, etc) and it also seems to be added sucessfully to Vera but like you when I tested the detector with some smoking paper Vera didn’t pick up any alert. Not much point in Vera recognizing it if it does nothing when activated. If you get any update from MCV please post it.

For what it’s worth, I submitted a ticket along with log files to MCV :slight_smile:

Do any of the smoke detectors sync with each other without going through the Vera system? For instance, if there is a fire and one of the smoke detectors go off, I know that it will cause the other detectors to go off also. But do they sync between each other or is the command sent from the Vera system? For instance, if the Vera system is incapacitated and isn’t working, will the detector send a signal to the other detectors to turn on their sirens or is the Vera system only able to do that? Also, how can I tell what type of smoker detectors came with adt systems? I’m curious to know if they will work?

Just my two cents, but z wave is not reliable enough to stake your life on it. I could see using for secondary things like turning on lights during a fire, but if you want multiple alarms going off as your primary alarm then they need to be hard wired.
The fact that it does not send a signal may be by design. If you send the signal then someone will depend on it and I don’t think the mfg could buy enough insurance to that.

Reliability is a sliding scale, going from having no smoke detectors, having 1, having multiple, having multiple linked by radio (Z-wave or proprietary), to having multiple ones linked by wire. Linking them by Z-wave should be just as good as (perhaps even better than) detectors linked by a proprietary radio protocol, which are commonly available in Europe and apparently not hampered by insurance issues.

Aaanyway… I got a second SF812 today. These things can not be linked together, probably because the Z-wave radio is only woken up periodically in order to save the battery. Going by the manufacturer’s info, the idea is to link these smoke alarms to the SE812 siren, which will sound when any of the detectors are set off. That would work for me, the only place I need to have a “general alert” is the bedroom.

I’ve also tried linking the smoke detector to an Everspring AN158 wall switch (you can set associations through Vera). The switch will flash 10 times when the tamper switch in the SF812 is tripped :slight_smile: However it will not react to either the test button or setting off the alarm with actual smoke. :frowning: Which is too bad as the AN158 instantly reports status changes to Vera, allowing for a scenario to be triggered.

So we’re back to hoping MCV is going to add support for this smoke detector… or getting the Eversrping siren.

Having a smoke sensor over z-wave is a very nice feature. Unfortunately it does not function with vera yet.
I don’t understand why vera has not added support for this device yet, are they working on it?
This is a very useful device, I find it one of the most useful products in the z-wave market.
Can we get an update from MCV? Are you working on getting it to work?

I got the SE812 siren in the mail today, and played around a bit with that. The siren itself works great; you control it from Vera like any lamp module (on/off), has a tamper switch, and can run on batteries and/or a power supply.

But it seems Everspring messed up a little with their smoke detectors, they fail to set off even their own @#&*% brand siren… :frowning: (The smoke detectors can be paired on group 1 from the Vera control screen, which works as I’ve seen certain brands of light switches react to the smoke detectors tamper switch being tripped).

Perhaps MCV will add support for whatever command these detectors send when tripped, and we’ll be able to use it to set off the siren. But in this case I’d prefer a direct association that doesn’t involve Vera, so that the siren will go of even when Vera’s down.

Some good news: I upgraded the Vera firmware to 1.1.1338 (beta), and it appears that they have added support for this device. When I hit the test button on the smoke detector, Vera shows the sensor as Tripped, and will start the corresponding scenario :slight_smile:

I can confirm that Vera reacts to the test button.

Any idea how to test a real alarm without burning the house? :slight_smile:

I’ve lit a couple of papers in an open fire place and just held the dectector over it to allow any smoke pass through it. Seems to work if there is a enough smoke. Only downside was the smoke discoloured the white plastic a little. Watch you dont burn your hand or light your sleeve if the fire is too big…