Should I wait for OpenHab 2?

Plugins & Plugin Development openHAB MiOS Binding
#1

Hello All! I finally have OpenHab 1.70 running with all Vera devices loaded (thanks Guessed for translating them for me).

I have about 500 devices and use PLEG for a fully automated motion control home. Sadly, Vera is not too reliable, slow, and prone to random reboots once a month (last time I was traveling and Vera decided to reboot every 30 seconds with my Wife and newborn).

My question #1 is, do you feel I should start with that OpenHab 1.7 + HabAdmin…or wait for OpenHab2 in order to build advanced scene logic? It seems mostly focused on UI. I just wanted to make sure all my new scene logic ported over to OpenHab or would it need to be rewritten (where I should wait).

Also question #2, how does OpenHab work with Scene Controller (Leviton AC 4 button or Aeon MiniMotes)? I have a lot of scene controllers and hoping to start by slowly trickling some scenes over. Hoping not to start on a “problem area” of OpenHab if Scene Controllers don’t work well.

Thanks for any advice! Cheers!

#2

500? wow.

I’m curious as to what you are thinking for tablet and camera control?

#3

[quote=“tomgru, post:2, topic:185736”]500? wow.

I’m curious as to what you are thinking for tablet and camera control?[/quote]

I uses this for Tablet Wall Control (Slate 21):
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,22763.msg188456.html#msg188456
Note - I’m now sending it back for the third time for replacement after the OS seems to get corrupted.

And using my main HTPC/Server to run OpenHab:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,30371.msg217662.html#msg217662

PS - I have devices bridged on two Vera’s to split the load of device managment:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,25161.msg177037.html#msg177037

#4

I’d start by only converting parts that are causing instability and/or inconsistency in execution, if these can be isolated, to minimize the impact to the existing system. In my case, everything new is only being added to openHAB.

ie. Fix existing load, move new loads to stable infrastructure.

In my case, I severely pruned my Vera 3 about 2yrs ago so stability isn’t as much of an issue as consistency of execution. I’m slowly isolating these inconsistencies, and they’re the target of conversion.

Now vs Later (wrt openHAB) becomes less of an issue if you can minimize what you’re converting.

ie. Don’t convert everything just for the hell of it :wink:

Also question #2, how does OpenHab work with Scene Controller (Leviton AC 4 button or Aeon MiniMotes)? I have a lot of scene controllers and hoping to start by slowly trickling some scenes over. Hoping not to start on a "problem area" of OpenHab if Scene Controllers don't work well.

Via the MiOS Binding, all Scene Controllers on Vera end up with these attrs (from your files):

main.items:Number MiniMoteBlackslSceneActivated "MiniMote - Black Scene Activated [%d]" (GDevices,GRoom19) {mios="unit:main,device:365/service/SceneController1/sl_SceneActivated"} main.items:Number MiniMoteBlackslSceneDeactivated "MiniMote - Black Scene Deactivated [%d]" (GDevices,GRoom19) {mios="unit:main,device:365/service/SceneController1/sl_SceneDeactivated"} main.items:Number MiniMoteWhiteslSceneDeactivated "MiniMote - White Scene Deactivated [%d]" (GDevices,GRoom19) {mios="unit:main,device:366/service/SceneController1/sl_SceneDeactivated"} main.items:Number MiniMoteWhiteslSceneActivated "MiniMote - White Scene Activated [%d]" (GDevices,GRoom19) {mios="unit:main,device:366/service/SceneController1/sl_SceneActivated"}

You end up writing “received update” Rules against these. There are some tricks though, so I’m guessing @lolodomo will chime in with the information.

A bit of that discussion, and the changes I made to better accommodate it, is here
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,25531.msg205212.html#msg205212

Other than that, each of the Buttons on a [Vera] Scene Controller is attached to a Scene of some sort. You can fire these off directly in openHAB, in a Rule, using script like:

    sendCommand(SceneLRVolUp, ON)
#5

[quote=“AgileHumor, post:3, topic:185736”][quote=“tomgru, post:2, topic:185736”]500? wow.

I’m curious as to what you are thinking for tablet and camera control?[/quote]

I uses this for Tablet Wall Control (Slate 21):
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,22763.msg188456.html#msg188456
Note - I’m now sending it back for the third time for replacement after the OS seems to get corrupted.

And using my main HTPC/Server to run OpenHab:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,30371.msg217662.html#msg217662

PS - I have devices bridged on two Vera’s to split the load of device managment:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,25161.msg177037.html#msg177037[/quote]

Sorry… i meant what tablet software in lieu of ImperiHome?

#6

I barely use the tablet anymore. We wife finely learned how to hold the button on the minimotes next to our bed for the alternate functions (one was activating bedtime mode before the 11pm fail safe)

I know since I have the 3rd replacement Slate 21 unit sitting here for the last 2 weeks, and I haven’t found the need to replace it yet :wink:

Mostly we just use the in wall scene controllers to disable motion in the bedroom or living room if we don’t plan to move around alot…and that’s it However, once I get motivated to hang the replacement Slate 21, and the beauty is I can keep using Imperihome to control the Vera (just won’t have the super scenes…but will have device control).

#7

[quote=“AgileHumor, post:6, topic:185736”]I barely use the tablet anymore. We wife finely learned how to hold the button on the minimotes next to our bed for the alternate functions (one was activating bedtime mode before the 11pm fail safe)

I know since I have the 3rd replacement Slate 21 unit sitting here for the last 2 weeks, and I haven’t found the need to replace it yet :wink:

Mostly we just use the in wall scene controllers to disable motion in the bedroom or living room if we don’t plan to move around alot…and that’s it However, once I get motivated to hang the replacement Slate 21, and the beauty is I can keep using Imperihome to control the Vera (just won’t have the super scenes…but will have device control).[/quote]

ah… makes sense. I thought you had more tablets around for control. I have several wall mounted tablets running Imperihome that replaced many Leviton controllers. Lots of customization there that I can’t afford to lose.

#8

Thanks @Guessed, I’ll start with some of my macro scenes like Bedtime or Wakeup.