My router is in one corner of my house and it has trouble communicating with several devices. I saw one time that I could move my Vera plus to a central location and use wifi to communicate with the router. Could someone provide the steps to achieve this.
From the little I’ve managed to learn i’m pretty sure it’s not possible. The vera (at lest my VeraPlus) can’t connect to the router via wifi; the most it can do is be an access point.
To do this, Vera’s WiFi will need to operate in “client” mode. At this time, this functionality is not available on Vera Plus, but we do expect it to become available in later firmwares.
The lack of ability to properly configure WiFi on the Vera Plus is pretty deplorable, now 9 months after its release.
To add to Z-wavers spot on reply, this was the same problem with the Vera edge when it first came out. It has now been fixed and you can do what you requested on the edge. When the PLUS was released the same problem again and this time it seems to be taken a very long time to fix this well known issue.
For now just buy two cheap PowerLine adapters…
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Thank you all, for the replies. I guess for now I will buy the powerline adapters. I’m assuming I can just plug in the vera controller at the other end wothout any issues. Is there a brand that is better than others?
For a low bandwidth application like this, they are all more or less the same. Almost all of them in a given speed class have the exact same controller chip in them anyway.
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Bringing this back to life… Hey Vera? Please tell us WHEN we can connect VeraPlus to a WAP so we can be cordless and connected to our wifi network.
Any update on connecting vera as a wifi client?
See this thread - it’s available now for Vera Plus: http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,36370.msg327100.html#msg327100
That thread seems locked.
What is the status of wifi client for vera edge and vera secure? Anyone using this fucntion sucessfully on vera plus?
Yes, I have been using this successfully on a Vera Plus.
However, I have had an unusual occurrence a number of times, where the Vera Plus just “freaks out”, and it loses all wifi connectivity. It could be related to hiccups from my router (a Netgear Nighthawk R7800). I’m not sure why it occasionally happens. I have since replaced my router (with an ASUS RT-AC88U), and it has not happened since.
So, yes it works, but beware bugs lurk underneath!
(In order to get it back working, I have had to do a network reset, and then re-apply the SSID, and the wifi password, etc.
It’s frustrating that it breaks sometimes. I’ve reported that to support, but I’m not sure exactly what causes the issue. Simply dropping the wifi connection, isn’t the issue.)
[quote=“JackTheMan18, post:12, topic:193656”]However, I have had an unusual occurrence a number of times, where the Vera Plus just “freaks out”, and it loses all wifi connectivity. It could be related to hiccups from my router (a Netgear Nighthawk R7800). I’m not sure why it occasionally happens. I have since replaced my router (with an ASUS RT-AC88U), and it has not happened since.
So, yes it works, but beware bugs lurk underneath![/quote]
Something as important and non portable as vera should be wired, even if wireless generally works.
[quote=“JackTheMan18, post:12, topic:193656”]Yes, I have been using this successfully on a Vera Plus.
However, I have had an unusual occurrence a number of times, where the Vera Plus just “freaks out”, and it loses all wifi connectivity. It could be related to hiccups from my router (a Netgear Nighthawk R7800). I’m not sure why it occasionally happens. I have since replaced my router (with an ASUS RT-AC88U), and it has not happened since.
So, yes it works, but beware bugs lurk underneath!
(In order to get it back working, I have had to do a network reset, and then re-apply the SSID, and the wifi password, etc.
It’s frustrating that it breaks sometimes. I’ve reported that to support, but I’m not sure exactly what causes the issue. Simply dropping the wifi connection, isn’t the issue.)[/quote]
This might happen if the Wifi channel of your router changes (usually it’s on Auto). As a suggestion and temporary solution until development resolves this, is to set a manual wifi channel on your AP or wifi router.
[size=3][/size][quote=“dzmiller, post:11, topic:193656”][size=3][/size]That thread seems locked.What is the status of wifi client for vera edge and vera secure? Anyone using this fucntion sucessfully on vera plus?[/quote][font=verdana]
This feature has been added to VeraPlus, two releases ago.[/font]
Is this the case for Plus only, or for Edge as well?
I’ve encountered some problems with Vera Plus connected to AP over WiFi (i.e. blinking service and internet lights, dashboard showing controller as offline after I restarted the router), while it was never the case for any of my Edge’s.
If what you wrote affects Plus only, It might be the cause of my issues.
I agree that the default Vera setup should be wired ethernet as standard practice. But there are situations where wifi is a better choice.
I’m doing a project with a three bedroom house where I want Veraplus to talk directly to zwave devices in a detached garage. I’m not sure yet as to the best location of vera.
I no longer believe that extensive ethernet prewiring is cost effective in a new or remodeled house. I do ethernet to each floor plus media center and office. I would hardwire just the media center and office on a tight budget.
Wifi is never a “Better choice” but it’s almost always an easier choice, which makes it the most liked solution.
[quote=“dzmiller, post:16, topic:193656”]I’m doing a project with a three bedroom house where I want Veraplus to talk directly to zwave devices in a detached garage. I’m not sure yet as to the best location of vera.[/quote] Solution should include more then one z-wave network to prevent issues.
With internet speeds going up, wired residential network speeds starting to hit 10gig local and 1 gig to the house and fastest wireless is around 500mbps. Wired is still no where near wireless in speed or reliability. I use Ubiquiti Unifi for networking and its considered a lower end commercial setup. Wireless is still not as reliable as wired. If you have cameras (I have 10 POE) then they all need power and network then that takes up a good amount of wire. My wifi AP’s need wired POE. I also wire each TV (usually a fire tv or apple tv stuffed behind the Tv on the wall, really), each computer, sonos, plus I have home automation devices Z-net, have a small switch in the garage for cameras on the garage and AP.
I really don’t see wired going away I see it being needed more as the home internet is in the gigabit range but wireless is half that. Cat6a is now going cat7.
I keep wireless for phones, tablets, Amazon echo, roomba and a few other small wifi appliances.
OK, that’s your perspective, but others can see things differently.
For example one of my locations have internet access via cellular network. I simply can’t afford laying c.a. 20-30km of cable to get a wired connection there.
From this perspective, connecting Vera to the router over WiFi is the smallest problem for the whole setup.
And remember, that definition what is “better” is also different from person to person.
At above location I can’t put the controller near the router because I will loose connection to more distant buildings which I want to cover (yes, I took advantage of installing Z-wave repeaters already). The router is connected to the external antenna to get signal strong enough for reliable connection. That antenna is placed of course at place where signal is strongest. If I move router, I will have to extend the cable to the antenna which will degrade all benefit from having it.
And I will not install Ethernet cable across the house not only because of costs and difficulties, but also because of aesthetics (no, it is not possible to hide it).
Of course I could make serious work inside, dig into the walls and then rebuild and repair whole house but this would cost enormous amount of money and time - I have much better use for both
Taking above into consideration, yes WiFi IS better choice for me.
And I can easily imagine dozen of different setups/configurations where the WiFi is better, or even the only choice.
[quote=“kwieto, post:18, topic:193656”]And I will not install Ethernet cable across the house not only because of costs and difficulties, but also because of aesthetics (no, it is not possible to hide it).
Of course I could make serious work inside, dig into the walls and then rebuild and repair whole house but this would cost enormous amount of money and time - I have much better use for both
Taking above into consideration, yes WiFi IS better choice for me.
And I can easily imagine dozen of different setups/configurations where the WiFi is better, or even the only choice.[/quote]
You seem to be offended for some reason.
“Better” is in terms of quality, reliability and speed of the connection. Internet connection in this case.
“Easier” is in terms of how much work it will take you to install it.
When it’s to much work (or money) for you (and trust me everyone says there is no way to run hidden wires) then the easier way becomes what you now consider the “better” way.
Point is the wireless connection didn’t just magically become “better” it just became a better idea (to you) for your case since its the easier way for the reasons you listed above. That happens quiet often and there is no problem with that. You could even argue that wireless is more reliable then vera itself or has better up time. Just don’t confuse “Better” with good enough when it comes to Wired vs. Wireless. There is a difference.
Offended? No.
Rather irritated.
I thought that you just don’t see cases where Ethernet is not a very good option, or even applicable, but seems that this is not the case.
OK, technically Ethernet is better. What is the help from this “better” in a setup, where it is simply not applicable or too expensive?
Telling somebody, who need WiFi, that Ethernet is better is just pointless and waste of time - this doesn’t solve his struggles. He already knows that and if he could use Ethernet, he would do that.