Does anyone know if it is possible to use the 2GIG Go Control Panel as a secondary controller to Vera? Or would this device be fighting to obtain Primary Controller status? Does anyone know if Vera and the Go are able to speak to one another, exchange data, communicate, ect.?
The Go Control Panel is a touchscreen with Z Wave control capability, seems as if it would make for a good alarm system and with Z Wave functionality it also seems as if it would integrate nicely with current Z Wave networks. However, that would be in a perfect world. lol.
Basically, all I really want out of the Go Control Panel is its decent touchscreen interface and the Alarm System feature. I’d really like to be able to use the touchscreen interface to interact with Vera and the Z Wave Network.
If anyone has tried this or knows if it will work or not please let me know. Thank you.
I have one (2 Gig), but have not installed it yet. I was planning on using the 2 Gig at a house that I will be eventually moving to later this year, but it has no internet now, so the cellular control via alarm.com and alarmrelay.com as the monitoring company was what I was planning on. Eventually the Vera 2 will join it, and there wil be internet their as well. Having the 2 Gig on a GSM cellular modem is good, because I don’t plan to have a “real phone line” either, and internet monitoring, well that can easily be bypassed.
There is also an “open collector output”, which is supposedly controled via Zwave. I was planning on putting a small relay on this, and using it to run the garage door openor, we’ll see how that works out.
The 2 Gig can be a secondary controller.
You can trigger scenes from alarm events (in the 2 Gig)
They are not going to talk, very much… you should probably read the “Zwave Guide”, I am attaching the link:
“The Control Panel can be added to an existing Z-Wave network as a “secondary” controller.
When the Control Panel acts as a secondary controller, devices will only be able to be added and removed by the primary controller. Other than that, all functions are available to either controller.”
This was found in the instruction booklet of the Go! Control Panel.
So if I’m using a GO!Control panel to communicate with door sensors and a Vera 2 as my controller, will my vera be able to recognize if the doors are open or not?
probably not, thats why I switched to an Ademco 20P, and the AD2USB adapter, to get that functionality to activate scenes based on inputs (PIRs doors etc) from the alarm system. The 2 Gig does not integrate to Vera that way (or really at all…)
So far in all of our testing, we have been unable to get the 2GIG to function correctly as a Seconday even though the manual says it can. From what I am being told, it is able to be learned in but none of the devices show up/work properly. More testing may be being done today so I will give an update if we get anything.
I have just installed my 2GIG and have mostly been successful setting it up as a secondary controller. My provider safe alarm had enabled both lights and Thermostats at Alarm.com but not the locks. I went ahead and set up 2gig as secondary, paired instantly and after 30 seconds of waiting for it to read the network all devices showed up on 2gig. The 2gig showed light control immediately but Thermostat had messages that it was not capable. Phoned alarmsafe to add locks at Alarm.com, was instantaneous at website but still no locks button on the panel, phoned alarmsafe again, had to go into programming to add locks to the panel. Panel does a reboot now the lights and thermostat show correctly on 2gig and and I can control them there. Still no locks. I have a Kwickset that I can control with Homebuddy and the device shows up in 2gig but clicking on locks button, Nothing appears so I can control it.
I am now thinking the locks, lights,therostat need to be enabled at provider first(ie show up on alarm.com) then all set up on vera2, then make sure locks and lights and tStat are enebled on 2gig(they are all independantly enabled).
Then add 2gig as secondary(quite easy and quick) then figure out how to reboot 2gig then wait a while and everything in vera should show up on 2gig.
Right now because I didn’t have locks enabled before I paired to 2gig I I am trying to figure out how to remove as secondary controller and start from scratch.
The other possibility is the Kikset just doesn’t want to work unless paired directly to 2gig but the other lights and TRane Tstat show up and work perfectly from 2gig panel.
In case you are wondering, now I can use home buddy or Alarm.com Android app to control lights and Tstat. So over Alarm.com using GSM or over cell phone to internet to Vera.
[quote=“csayers, post:8, topic:167739”]I have just installed my 2GIG and have mostly been successful setting it up as a secondary controller. My provider safe alarm had enabled both lights and Thermostats at Alarm.com but not the locks. I went ahead and set up 2gig as secondary, paired instantly and after 30 seconds of waiting for it to read the network all devices showed up on 2gig. The 2gig showed light control immediately but Thermostat had messages that it was not capable. Phoned alarmsafe to add locks at Alarm.com, was instantaneous at website but still no locks button on the panel, phoned alarmsafe again, had to go into programming to add locks to the panel. Panel does a reboot now the lights and thermostat show correctly on 2gig and and I can control them there. Still no locks. I have a Kwickset that I can control with Homebuddy and the device shows up in 2gig but clicking on locks button, Nothing appears so I can control it.
I am now thinking the locks, lights,therostat need to be enabled at provider first(ie show up on alarm.com) then all set up on vera2, then make sure locks and lights and tStat are enebled on 2gig(they are all independantly enabled).
Then add 2gig as secondary(quite easy and quick) then figure out how to reboot 2gig then wait a while and everything in vera should show up on 2gig.
Right now because I didn’t have locks enabled before I paired to 2gig I I am trying to figure out how to remove as secondary controller and start from scratch.
The other possibility is the Kikset just doesn’t want to work unless paired directly to 2gig but the other lights and TRane Tstat show up and work perfectly from 2gig panel.
In case you are wondering, now I can use home buddy or Alarm.com Android app to control lights and Tstat. So over Alarm.com using GSM or over cell phone to internet to Vera.[/quote]
As an update, to using 2gig as secondary, after some research, it seems that the lockset will not be controllable from the secondary controller. This is not unique to 2gig. Locksets use encryption when paired to the primary. This encryption apparently does not transfer to the secondary controller by design. I think I read that this is by design in the z-wave protocol.
My understanding is that for security reasons this is done. I don’t know if 2gig has the ability to override this limitation through software or whether it will ever be possible because of the encryption used on locksets.
Maybe someone else can shed light on this? In any case my lights and Tstat are controllable by either alarm.com or through VERA using Alarm buddy or through the 2gig panel.
This was a very informative thread. I just bought the 2gig Go!Control panel, have NO idea what it can and can’t do. Thank you guys so much!
BTW, I guess I should have researched this first, but I currently have a 6 year old ADT talking panel with a ton of zones; do you guys think the Go!Control will talk to the existing ADT sensors? I wish I had more specifics, I will check when I get home.
ok.
I don’t have a Vera yet. I might make it my christmas present this year. I have a 2gig alarm system installed - 3 door sensors and a motion sensor. also have a light module. I pay for monitoring the doors and motion sensor, I don’t want to pay for monitoring anything else - they don’t monitor my cameras and won’t be monitoring anything else i get.
I have a Windows phone and Alarm.com does not have nice phone interface for this phone. I cannot tell from Alarm.com whether the doors have been opened or not, or whether they are now open. I only get arming and disarming messages. I guess I’m assuming more will cost more and maybe I should check to be sure. I want to know the same as when i’m in the house and get the sound alerts re “side door” when it opens.
I’ve seen grasshopper and was hoping to monitor everything from my phone using Vera and grasshopper. I want to be able to know and even better get triggers from the status/states of these sensors through Vera’s interface or my phone with grasshopper. I plan to add more controllers, maybe for more lights, the garage door. I already have to ip cameras i want to monitor and want to check everything from my phone.
i don’t want to “control” the 2gig, just read it, if that makes any difference. If I do get a Vera, will I be able to have it be primary controller and “read” the 2gig sensor status/states?
[quote=“garrettwp, post:14, topic:167739”]It is not possible to read the sensors from the 2gig into Vera. There are other security alarms that can integrate into Vera to use the sensors.
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SO I have a 2 gig controller for my house security system…everything was hardwired when we moved in. Unfortunately it appears that none of that sensor info can be accessed by my VeraLite that I just got. I spoke with 2gig tech support and they were pretty ignorant of any work arounds… Am I left with adding my own z wave sensors to doors/windows? Are there any other solutions out there?
Does anyone know why it is not possible to read the sensors from the 2gig into Vera 3? If there are other security alarms that can be read, then why can’t the the 2gig? I really like the 2gig go control panel, its a great product. I just purchased a vera 3 to complete my home security and home automation system with hopes of figuring out how to make them work together. Can someone please figure out a way to make these to devices work together.
Because there is no way to interface with the alarm panel. Other alarm panels have interfaces like usb, serial and expansion boards that allow the panel to communicate via an api or reverse engineering. The 2gig does not have any such interface or one that the company is willing to provide.
My guess is, this is not necessarily in scope for MCV.
My impression of this panel has been that it is a panel, like others, with its own set of non-Z-wave based sensors. And as additional functionality it offers a Z-Wave interface, to control lighting, thermostats, etc.
To get access to the Z-Wave devices, in conjunction with Vera, it would need to be able to become a secondary controller to Vera.
To get access to the sensors, it would need to offer some (public) external interface, that Vera could then potentially talk to like it is done for other panels, as @garrettwp explained.