Just curious, could you post the [tt]Capabilities[/tt] of the CA600 (and CA3000)?
From their manuals…
CA600
- Multiple location dimming when used with wireless accessory controls. - Multiple location On/Off control using conventional 3-way or 4-way wiring and devices. - Lights fade up or down turned on or off. - Automatically returns to last level in the event of power fluctuations. - Light levels can be set by pressing and holding the rocker until the desired light level is reached. - Mini-scenes allows local control of connected load plus up to 5 additional Z-wave devices. - Full 230 device scene control when used with Intermatic InTouch™ server . - Dimmer always operates local load, does not require central control system.
CA3000
- Multiple location On/Off when used with wireless accessory controls. - Multiple location On/Off control using conventional 3-way or 4-way wiring and devices. - Mini-scenes allows local control of connected load plus up to 5 additional Z-wave devices. - Full 230 device scene control when used with Intermatic InTouch™ server . - Switch always operates local load, does not require central control system.
@kkl,
The [tt]Capabilities[/tt] that oTi@ is referring to is the Z-Wave “[tt]Capabilities[/tt]” string. It’s a long, comma-separated, list of #'s that formally identifies the specs of the devices.
You can see examples in posts like this one:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,9117.msg69259.html#msg69259
Oh?! 
That obviously went right past me. Here it is for the CA600. I don’t own the CA3000, but they’re very similar other than the dimming function.
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[td]Capabilities[/td][td]201,12,0,4,17,1,L,R,RS,|38:1,39,114,115,133,134,145[/td]
[/tr]
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[td]Version[/td][td]6,2,9,1,101[/td]
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[/table]
In my quick testing this evening, it appears these devices are not “Scene capable” at least in the world of Leviton scenes.
I associated the new switch with a Leviton scene controller (VRCS1), in both directions. If I configure the scene controller to do “area on/off” it will control the device. However, if I set it up for a “scene” then nothing happens when I activate the scene. However, if the device is on, when I deactivate the scene, it will turn it off.
Oh well…I only plan to use a couple of them to control fans/lights in rarely used parts of the house, so I can take the limitations.
PurdueGuy mentioned in another thread that he hadn’t had a chance to check if the CA3000 supported “instant” status. I was about to reply with a wrong answer, until I checked my switches. To my surprise, the Intermatic Homesettings brand devices (HA14, HA03) do seem to support instant status, but the Intermatic Intouch CA600 does not. I’m only going by what I see on the dashboard. I’m surprised that the higher-end Intouch doesn’t.
My CA3000 does report status instantly, at least 90% of the time.
I don’t have it installed in its actual location yet, I just have it wired in an enclosure. It was also unplugged during the last heal, so it doesn’t have a route to Vera, so I assume sometimes the notice makes it to Vera, and sometimes not. (I just moved the switch close to Vera, and it worked 100% of the time…granted, that was only about 10 toggles!)
I do not have a CA600 to test.
I do have Intermatic HomeSettings outlets (HA01s), and those also report to Vera instantly.
I know MCV used some “special sauce” to make things work even on devices that don’t have “instant status”…but I’m not sure if it works for everything. I can see it working for devices that support associations, but GE & Intermatic (HomeSettings that is) devices do not, and yet Vera still gets notified instantly. I think the device do a broadcast of “hey, look, I just turned on” to any device within range. If Vera can see that, then it knows, but that message won’t be routed through other nodes to reach Vera, like it would be if the 2 devices were actually associated.
My CA3000s DO support associations, so I would think instant-status will work even when not in range, but I could be completely wrong.
Thanks for the interesting and helpful explanation. I just looked at this table, [url=http://store.homeseer.com/store/HomeSeer-Z-Wave-Dimming-Wall-Switch-Matrix-W16.aspx]http://store.homeseer.com/store/HomeSeer-Z-Wave-Dimming-Wall-Switch-Matrix-W16.aspx[/url], which says that HomeSettings don’t support instant status, so your explanation makes sense. I would be really surprised if the CA3000 supports it, but the CA600 doesn’t, since they’re so similar, but I’m not seeing it work today.
Have you been able to figure out how to use the CA3000 as a single-scene control or get it to control a group of switches?
[quote=“kkl, post:48, topic:171262”]Have you been able to figure out how to use the CA3000 as a single-scene control or get it to control a group of switches?[/quote]I tried for a little while, but that’s not my intended purpose, so I didn’t try too hard.
But the instructions say “start with the switch off, and hold the off for 10 seconds” until the LED blinks/turns blue. No matter how long I tried, I never got it to do that.
I removed associations, power cycled, etc. but nothing would get the blue LED. I don’t have an InTouch base, so that might be required, even though the instructions didn’t say that.
I discovered that early on. I’ve got a trouble-ticket in with MCV about it, but it takes awhile when you only get a response every few days.
From the Homeseer forum (http://board.homeseer.com/showpost.php?p=986940&postcount=10):
The CA600 is not listing in the matrix since it went out of production in 2007. It does not support instant status and has some serious issues. We carried the switch in our store back in 2006 but only for a couple months. If you'd like more help or want more detailed information, just give us a call.
Hmm…
Hmm indeed! I guess they don’t want anything in writing??
I just installed the CA3000s in a bathroom. Dang they are LOUD!! I know relays clicks, but on a scale of 1-10, with GEs and Levitons being an arbitrary 7, these CA3000s are probably a 15! I live alone, so I can probably deal, but the thought of that loud SNAP in the middle of the night will probably force me to switch them to Levitons.
Yes, they are loud and that was my first impression as well - I was like… damn!!! However, for me, considering I could get 4 of them vs. 1 Leviton and I have a small install I could live with the no feedback issue and a loud relay. My bedrooms though all have the dimmers which don’t click at all so no issues there.
This is my first install with Z-Wave so I would love to know what the “serious issues” were that HomeSeer were eluding to.
PM me for details
why not just post in the forum so everyone can gain?
I got my set of 3 CA3000 / 3 CA600 in the other day and installed 2 dimmers and one switch so far.
The switches sure are loud compared to my GE/Jasco units but I can live with that considering the price.
Right now I’m scratching my head as I can’t get a CA3000 to work in my guest bathroom. It’s sharing a double gang with a GFI outlet and gets it’s neutral/line from the outlet. (Don’t ask, house was built in '72 and although the wiring is solid and 12gauge all around, the structuring is weird.)
Whatever I do, the GFI trips every time I attempt to switch the CA3000 lights on. The led on the CA3000 lights up correctly though. For test purposes I wired the light directly into the GFI outlets and no problems. Confirming what my multi meter told me with regards to continuity. The weird thing is that it all works when putting the standard 2 pin switch back in. I need the outlet and don’t want to have a non GFI outlet next to that sink so for now it’s no zwave there.
Anybody else experience issues with these and GFI outlets?
I put that CA3000 in another location and it’s working fine. I have a GE/Jasco switch in the master bathroom in the exact same configuration and there is no issues there.
Just as an FYI, both the CA3000 and CA600 devices report that they support COMMAND_CLASS_ASSOCIATION.
It appears that Vera registers itself to receive events via the association, and when I operate the switches, the new switch state is received immediately by Vera:
[tt]42 05/07/12 10:01:25.677 0x1 0x9 0x0 0x4 0x0 0x2f 0x3 0x20 0x1 0x0 0xff (#####/# ###) <0x2c187680>
24 05/07/12 10:01:25.677 ZWaveSerial::ReceiveData got frame type 0x0 command id 0x4 m_iFrameID 97 gwf_ach <0x2c187680>
41 05/07/12 10:01:25.678 ACK: 0x6 (#) <0x2c187680>
24 05/07/12 10:01:25.696 ZWaveSerial::ReceivedFrame holding the srm mutex for m_iFrameID 97 gwf_ach <0x2c187680>
24 05/07/12 10:01:25.697 ZWaveSerial::ReceivedFrame receive data not waiting for frame: (nil)/null ack -1 expect 0 good 0 type 0 cmd:4/0 gd: 1 m_pRes (nil) m_pReq (nil) resp REQUEST pzw->m_c 0x4 m_iFrameID 97 gwf_ach <0x2c187680>
10 05/07/12 10:01:25.697 AlarmManager::AddRelativeAlarm current time 1336399285 delay 0 type 52 <0x2c187680>
10 05/07/12 10:01:25.697 AlarmManager::AddAbsoluteAlarm alarm 0x6f52e8 entry 0xd79138 id 84 type 52 param=0xd3e6d8 entry->when: 1336399285 time: 1336399285 bCancelFirst 0=0 <0x2c187680>
31 05/07/12 10:01:25.698 AlarmManager::Run 0x6f52e8 notified of a change entry 0x8e7f48 id 79 deleted 0 <0x2b987680>
31 05/07/12 10:01:25.698 AlarmManager::Run callback for alarm 0x6f52e8 entry 0xd79138 type 52 id 84 param=0xd3e6d8 entry->when: 1336399285 time: 1336399285 tnum: 1 slow 0 tardy 0 <0x2b987680>
24 05/07/12 10:01:25.698 ZWaveJobHandler::DoReceivedFrame m_iFrameID 97 gwf_ach node 47 command 0x4 data <0x2b987680>
24 05/07/12 10:01:25.699 ZWaveNode::HandlePollUpdate node 47 device 194 class 0x20 command 0x1 m_iFrameID 97/9567816 data 0x0 (#) <0x2b987680>
02 05/07/12 10:01:25.699 ZWaveNode::HandlePollUpdate_Basic_Set node 47 device 194 unhandled <0x2b987680>
24 05/07/12 10:01:25.699 ZWaveJobHandler::DoReceivedFrame m_iFrameID 97 done 1 <0x2b987680>[/tt]
However, Vera doesn’t appear to actually do anything with the data. The Vera device state is not updated, and no scenes are triggered. (I’m wondering if the “ZWaveNode::HandlePollUpdate_Basic_Set node 47 device 194 unhandled” message points to the reason)
Anyway, I’ve reported this as a bug to see if MCV can determine if this is a hardware bug, software bug, or just some feature I don’t understand. 
Hugh
Thanks for reporting this. I had submitted a request to try to get the switch working as a scene controller which it’s supposed to be able to do. After a week of waiting, I received an answer of quoting the manual that I need the CA5500B hand-held remote. Of course, the manual doesn’t list any method of controlling the switch other than using Intermatic’s controller, so that was useless. Maybe there is something proprietary about the communication, but it would have been nice if Vera could duplicate it.
PurdueGuy reported that his switch status gets updated immediately in Vera’s UI. Like yours, mine don’t. I wonder what the difference is?
Are your devices in direct communication with Vera? I installed another device this weekend, I’ll test it to see if it reports immediately. I could be luck of the draw??
Sorry, I don’t know what you mean.