Proliphix IP Thermostat vs Z-Wave Thermostats

I was on the fence on which thermostat to buy for the house. I was going to go with a Z-Wave thermostat but found them too limiting. So I decided to go with with a Proliphix IP Thermostat. I can honestly say, I’m a fan. It was easy to install and the web interface is clean, very functional, and utilitarian.

I’m reccomending this device to be supported by the Vera. It should be just as easy as an IP camera to support and it gives, IMHO, a more robust connection to the thermostat.

What did you pay for that one. There about 350.00
Don’t they need to be hard wired to the internet?
Most of the new Zwave stats just take place of the old stat.
What do you think it will do that you cannot do with Zwave.

I can have a stat turn on with motion - Associate
I can have a stat turn on at a specific time and date
I can Have a stat turn on when someone enters a home.
You cannot do that with proliphix.
If you have two zones that 's about 700.00
I can do 5 zones for that price in a fraction of the time install.

Don’t get me wrong about Prolihpix . There great in my opinion if you are not going Zwave. But if you are Zwave I’d personally stick to the Zwave protocol.

I agree with you that the zwave thermostats can be integrated with scenes and events better on a zwave network.

But there was concern when I was doing the research bout 18 months ago was that not all primary controllers play well with the z-wave thermostats depending on the version of SW in the controller. So you would only get basic interaction with z-wave controllers, unless you went to an upgradable usb dongle like control think and wait for better support. (I’m trying to avoid a PC in my setup) Also, the Z-wave thermos were just as expensive and seemed to have less standalone features (like programing without relying on a z-wave network for temperature events). Plus saying there is a webserver in my Thermostat is just plain cool :slight_smile:

I also wanted to have remote access, and an IP thermostat is straight-forward while a remote access to z-wave would require a gateway/bridge device, which the Vera should now do, but did not exist at the time of my research.

When I heard about the Vera and how they integrated IP camera support and the API for the Proliphix is really just http calls, I figured it was the solution “I” prefer. Now I could co-mingle different technologies, even if I had to do the programming myself.

I paid $211 for the professional proliphix on ebay. Retails for $500. You can get the basic home one and use POE for bout $350, but the professional one can uses existing power without a ethernet power injector (which you can only use theirs). I did have to run a new common wire though. I also ran an extra sensor ($20) upstairs to do temperature averaging, and I may do one outside for polling.

I did have to run Ethernet to it, but I don’t mind doing that kind of stuff since I prefer to have hardwire to devices that are stationary and only go wireless when the device is mobile.

I’m glad you are having a good experience with the zwave thermostat, but at the time of my research it was not for me. I really enjoy the peace-of-mind of having a solid TCP/IP connection to my thermostat and a device like the Vera should help me converge all these different protocols. I see proliphox as a feasible option since the cameras Vera uses is IP, and their AV solution will be the IP to IR globalcache bridge, which I’m chomping at the bit to see. I really want to try to get a zwave sensor to turn on a camera at the front door and send that to my TV’s PIP someday.

the Zwave Thermostats from Wayne dalton and Intermatic are from 100- 130

You got a good deal from Ebay.
Are there anymore like that at that price

The guy was from MO and had a lot of 10. I just did a search and the guy still had them for $230 I bought the 120h, but there’s also the 250h that includes humidstat control. The 120h retails for like $500, I like it because it can still use the existing power of the thermostat, all you have to do is run Ethernet. You may have to run an extra common wire though to provide the extra juice it needs.

If you can run the ethernet, I highly recommend this product, it’s rock solid and the API is really simple if you want to do custom stuff in the future.

He’s should not be selling them for that cheap oh well…

Thats about 60 bucks cheaper than what I ever was able to get them for even If I purchased 300 units.
I bet some folks are pissed.

Hi I have the Proliphix 150h thermostat hard wired through my router for control over my vacation home in Florida for guest that rent it when we are not there. I have used the external relay contact to enable/disable my pool heater, its a shame at the moment I cant control the pool pump but I have just ordered the Vera control unit and still waiting for delivery so I was wondering if I could use that interface to control the pool pump. I did notice a unti by Tightwatt that replaces the Intermatic timer and has a X10 interface so its hard to know which way to turn.

Steve,
I’m hopeful that the Lua scripting will be able to solve your problems since the Proliphix, I think, just takes in simple http requests, it should be easy to integrate it with scenes and events.

As far as the pool pump goes, the Intermatic InTouch CA3750 Z-Wave contactor would
be the way to go. I’m planning on installing one this Spring for my pool pump.
More information at: [url=http://www.intouchcontrols.com/Downloads.aspx]http://www.intouchcontrols.com/Downloads.aspx[/url]

Hi Guys,

If you’ve gone down the Proliphix route or are thinking about it you should check out our service. [url=http://inthrma.com/]InThrMa http://inthrma.com/[/url]

Our web-based service provides:

[ul][li]Data logging/graphing[/li]
[li]Custom alerts[/li]
[li]Dashboard [/li]
[li]Backup/Restore[/li]
[li]Mobile access/control including new iPhone web-app[/li]
[li]Custom programming[/li]
[li]And more[/li][/ul]

Sam Boutros

Thanks Sam Just signed up and it looks great.

[quote=“sboutros, post:10, topic:164304”]Hi Guys,

If you’ve gone down the Proliphix route or are thinking about it you should check out our service. [url=http://inthrma.com/]InThrMa http://inthrma.com/[/url]

Our web-based service provides:

[ul][li]Data logging/graphing[/li]
[li]Custom alerts[/li]
[li]Dashboard [/li]
[li]Backup/Restore[/li]
[li]Mobile access/control including new iPhone web-app[/li]
[li]Custom programming[/li]
[li]And more[/li][/ul]

Sam Boutros[/quote]
We have all your features included but for a more wide range of ZWave products.

Has anyone attempted to input some data from a Proliphix t-stat yet.
I was reading the thread on weather.com and thought the same method could be used with Proliphix. Proliphix uses simple HTTP API SET and GET to read and write data.
So for example if I wanted to know the room temperature I would enter…

http://192.168.100.102:8081/get?OID4.1.13=

The T-Stat would return…

OID4.1.13=714&

So my room temp. is 71.4 deg f

Proliphix has removed the API documentation from their web site, it is only available by request now. I have a copy for the NT series stats if anyone wants it.

I have Proliphix also but would like a thermostat that keeps history like on Z-Wave , Anybody know of a z-wave or insteon etc. that keeps history data of temperatures ?

Did anyone ever develop a plugin for Proliphix? I have a NT20e that I would love to join my vera. It worked on my mControl setup but mControl was crashing on me too often. Hopefully vera is more stable.

I would be happy to pay $50 for a good pluging for Proliphix IP thermostats.