Makita Drapery Help - I found the interface now need zwave control

The problem is I am fairly new and not sure how to adapt this to my Vera.
Hey there,
After searching for over a year I was able to source a few Makita Contact Closure Interface Model ZZ631103-A that are the interface for the makita drapes. I am attaching the scanned operating instructions and diagrams that came with the units. They say they can operate with a X-10 UM506 interface but I am trying to find a zwave interface that could do the same thing. I am only looking for basic operation open and close so I am hoping someone could help out directing me how to do this and what zwave module to use. I have the shades and motors and everything to install, in fact I have them on a rf remote right now. Any assistance would be great for this newbie.
Brett
I would love to use something that is already tested with Vera like Fibaro Roller Shutter 2 FGRM-222 but not sure if or how it would work with this setup.

[quote=“highintensity”]The problem is I am fairly new and not sure how to adapt this to my Vera.
Hey there,
After searching for over a year I was able to source a few Makita Contact Closure Interface Model ZZ631103-A that are the interface for the makita drapes. I am attaching the scanned operating instructions and diagrams that came with the units. They say they can operate with a X-10 UM506 interface but I am trying to find a zwave interface that could do the same thing. I am only looking for basic operation open and close so I am hoping someone could help out directing me how to do this and what zwave module to use. I have the shades and motors and everything to install, in fact I have them on a rf remote right now. Any assistance would be great for this newbie.
Brett
I would love to use something that is already tested with Vera like Fibaro Roller Shutter 2 FGRM-222 but not sure if or how it would work with this setup.[/quote]
Hi,

In your situation, I wouldn’t buy any shade controller. This is what I would do :

I would buy a Global Cache Contact Closure and connect the contact closure to the button inside the remote if you only need open and close.

If you only have one open and close button, the Global Cache has three contacts closure so that great.(one for open, one for close and one unsuse.

But, if you have more than one open and close button (ex, multiple section in your home and each of them has a open/close button, a 8 relays bords from ebay with the plugin from the vera store will be a lot cheaper too. (around 30$ I think) that way, you can control 4 zones.

Then in Vera, you create virtual switch with the virtual switch plugin and create a scene to open or close the contact concluse. That it

can you direct me to an example of the 8 relay board?

Yes, the plugin use in Vera to control the Relay board is in this link :
http://code.mios.com/trac/mios_iorelay

And the relay board compatible with the plugin in this link :
https://www.controlanything.com/Relay/Relay/LOW_COST

But, if you have a picture of your actual remote and what button do what. Also, how is your setup configure (each button for each windows, one button for the whole house or room,etc) I can write you a tutorial to complete the tasks easily.

This topic also has a lot of informations for you.
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,8585.msg55115.html#msg55115

Wow, Your help is just overwhelmingly helpful.
I am attaching the remote which is quite simple.

I will be using 2 pairs of curtains in separate locations. I have a 2 Channel Remote for each.
I have attached the photo.
Operations are: Open, Close and Stop.

I would also be interested in maybe just a simple 1 curtain. (I have the one channel Remotes also.)

Would I need the iTach Flex Products and the Global Cache Contact Closure? or Evolve LFM20 on the cheap?

Thanks,
Brett

[quote=“highintensity, post:5, topic:185448”]Wow, Your help is just overwhelmingly helpful.
I am attaching the remote which is quite simple.

I will be using 2 pairs of curtains in separate locations. I have a 2 Channel Remote for each.
I have attached the photo.
Operations are: Open, Close and Stop.

I would also be interested in maybe just a simple 1 curtain. (I have the one channel Remotes also.)

Would I need the iTach Flex Products and the Global Cache Contact Closure? or Evolve LFM20 on the cheap?

Thanks,
Brett[/quote]

Ok,

So if I understand correctly, you have two curtains in two different rooms. (Total of four curtains) Each room has his own remote control.

The remote control is IR, so you need to have the physical remote control inside the room to operate the windows.

To make this work with relay board, you will need 2 x 4 relays board. But, your Vera won’t be in the same room of the curtain, you will need to communicate by wifi with the board or if you are able, pass a ethernet cable from your home hub to the two rooms. This is not ideal, but it will work anyways. Normally, if your remote is RF instead of IR, you just take a standard Serial to USB converter and plug evrything next to Vera in a closet, but in your situation, we cannot do that.

Are you able to do this or not?

Also, remember, you won’t be able to control % of opening of the curtain! Only full open and close. So, we wont need the stop button of your remote control. Control of curtain over relay board is only for that.

That sounds correct and No the vera is not in same room so we will need to use RF or zwave.

Ok, let me check tonight or tomorrow the cheapest 4 relays board I can found online that is compatible with the plugin and will fit your situation.

The part with the relay then is just to solder a wire from the relay to the inside of the remote control. Pretty simple.

WE offer a Z-Wave to dry contact motor module, open/stop/close. $ 70.00

You know what, since your remote is IR. I would just buy two WiFi global cache IR sender (WI2IR is the model I think), learn the IR code of your remote to Vera, and then create virtual button inside Vera for the curtain. That it. Much less complicated than anything else.

You only need to buy 2 WI2IR only (around 99$ each) and that it. Also, you will be able to control any other IR devices (Television, Music, etc) with that device too.

[quote=“peterluc8080, post:8, topic:185448”]Ok, let me check tonight or tomorrow the cheapest 4 relays board I can found online that is compatible with the plugin and will fit your situation.
The part with the relay then is just to solder a wire from the relay to the inside of the remote control. Pretty simple.[/quote]
I have a similar situation, only I have a single Makita controller, with an identical remote to the one above, except mine is single-channel. Here is something OP needs to consider…

You should not connect a control device that would allow the open and close contacts to be closed simultaneously, i.e., you don’t want to send both commands at the same time. I don’t know whether your system has lockouts or safeguards that would prevent the motor(s) from burning out in such a situation.

I’ve received brochures from Zwavemotors, and will probably go this way, or with a Qubino shutter controller, when I figure out the pinout for the remote wired control input on my Makita module.

[quote=“DeltaNu1142, post:11, topic:185448”][quote=“peterluc8080, post:8, topic:185448”]Ok, let me check tonight or tomorrow the cheapest 4 relays board I can found online that is compatible with the plugin and will fit your situation.
The part with the relay then is just to solder a wire from the relay to the inside of the remote control. Pretty simple.[/quote]
I have a similar situation, only I have a single Makita controller, with an identical remote to the one above, except mine is single-channel. Here is something OP needs to consider…

You should not connect a control device that would allow the open and close contacts to be closed simultaneously, i.e., you don’t want to send both commands at the same time. I don’t know whether your system has lockouts or safeguards that would prevent the motor(s) from burning out in such a situation.

I’ve received brochures from Zwavemotors, and will probably go this way, or with a Qubino shutter controller, when I figure out the pinout for the remote wired control input on my Makita module.[/quote]

See my previous post with the IR device to send the IR command instead. This way, a lot of possible issues are gone with this solution.

Yes, I saw that. And that would definitely circumvent any problems with simultaneous commands (as does the supplied IR remote).

One thing that I expect to run into if I do this–and OP might need to know as well–is if the drapes are fully closed, and someone opens them by hand, either partially or all the way, a close IR command does nothing. I first have to hit open, then stop, and then close. The opposite case is the same (if fully open, and manually closed, then the open IR command doesn’t work). And there’s no position feedback, either… it’s an open-loop system.