For the past week or so I’ve woken up in the middle of the night to find random lights in the house turned on. It’s mainly happening in two rooms, both of which are controlled by GE z-wave switches. Is there any sort of log I can check to see what might be triggering these to turn on? I have a few different scenes that control those lights but none of them should be going off in the middle of the night like this.
It might be triggered by a nightly heal that Vera does if you have some under performing nodes.
If you were to press the reload button at night (assuming some of your scenes are only applicable at night) what occurs?
Take a look at the last repair report, if the date is recent, and you didn’t run it, then this is likely the cause of the scenes firing due to the luup restart after the heal.
[quote=“strangely, post:2, topic:177953”]It might be triggered by a nightly heal that Vera does if you have some under performing nodes.
If you were to press the reload button at night (assuming some of your scenes are only applicable at night) what occurs?
Take a look at the last repair report, if the date is recent, and you didn’t run it, then this is likely the cause of the scenes firing due to the luup restart after the heal.[/quote]
I think you may be right. I’m using the iPhone locator plugin and have certain lights set to turn on when I come home. The lights are probably being triggered during the 2AM heal that seems to happen nightly. I read that unchecking the “Use Vera routing instead of Z-Wave” will stop the 2AM heals. Is there any other side effect from unchecking this option?
Yep, that will trun it off! I’ve found the nightly heal to be an annoyance, and have no issues operating without it.
If your Z-Wave network is fairly healthy, then you shouldn’t really see any issues with disabling it. I think it was added originally to help with some latency issues that some people were having.
Yes, I agree… I keep that turned off with no problems at all.
I do have a fairly dense network, though.
This may explain my ghosting as well, worth a try at least.
Thanks for the tip.
On a somewhat related note, is the best way to improve network health (more stars on heal report) to add more devices?
Yes, adding to the node density will help.
But you could also add an external Antenna:
Had a random light turn on again in the middle of the night. I disabled the nightly heals so I don’t think that’s the problem. I also don’t think it’s a scene triggering because the only scenes that trigger that light set it to a certain percentage (it’s a dimmer) and when I awoke to the light being on it was back to it’s previous level it had been at before I went to bed which is different from the level the scene would of set it to. Any other suggestions?
Never assume. I suggest you go through all of your scenes and double check that none of them are turning the light on.
- Garrett
Is there a way to see a log that would show what triggered the light?
This all started right around the time I started using the iPhone Locator plug-in. I do have a scene set to trigger when either my iPhone or my wife’s gets marked as “present” so that lights will turn on when we get home at night. At first I thought that was triggering the lights to turn on in the middle of the night but it’s never all the lights in the scene and as I mentioned earlier it didn’t set the lights to the level the scene would have set the lights to.
I think the overview page has some information on it about what was run recently. Can’t be sure since I haven’t been in there for ages, and I’m not near the old girl to check at the mo.
If you select the AUTOMATION main tab and then the Triggers tab, you can see a list of all scene triggers and when they last fired.
Thanks! That confirms it’s not a scene that’s turning the light on. I also checked and there is no repair report from last night so I don’t think that caused it. Any other reason a switch would turn itself on?
Any other reason a switch would turn itself on?Possibilities include:
[ul][li]It has been associated to another Z-Wave device. This action will not show in Vera’s log.[/li]
[li]It is subject to an action from a plugin (PLEG, CombinationSwitch, etc). This will show in the log.[/li]
[li]It is subject to a command from a remote-control app. The action will show in the log.[/li]
[li]It is defective. This will not show in the log.[/li][/ul]
My next move would be to check the log when the light came on to see what was happening. If the switch-on action was logged, you may be able to see what caused it by seeing what other things had recently been logged.
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Any other reason a switch would turn itself on?
Possibilities include:
[ul][li]It has been associated to another Z-Wave device. This action will not show in Vera’s log.[/li]
[li]It is subject to an action from a plugin (PLEG, CombinationSwitch, etc). This will show in the log.[/li]
[li]It is subject to a command from a remote-control app. The action will show in the log.[/li]
[li]It is defective. This will not show in the log.[/li][/ul]
My next move would be to check the log when the light came on to see what was happening. If the switch-on action was logged, you may be able to see what caused it by seeing what other things had recently been logged.[/quote]
By “check the log” are you referring to the automation log you mentioned earlier or is there another log I should look at?
...is there another log I should look at?Indeed there is. See [url=http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Logs]http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Logs[/url] to find out more.
Hi @seannymurrs
Did you manage to find out what the cause was?
I’ve started to notice my kitchen light is occasionally on when I get up in the mornings, knowing full well I turned it off at night.
After adding a Prowl notification on Vera/Luup start up I now get notified whenever Vera restarts - therefore it’s possible that the restart is the cause, (I need to do more testing) and it’s some how linked to a EZ Motion motion sensor as that’s the trigger for the light…
All of this is strange as it has never been an issue before and it’s not every night (even if Vera was to do a restart)
Anyway I was curious to find out if you found out the cause to yours.
[quote=“parkerc, post:18, topic:177953”]Hi @seannymurrs
Did you manage to find out what the cause was?
I’ve started to notice my kitchen light is occasionally on when I get up in the mornings, knowing full well I turned it off at night.
After adding a Prowl notification on Vera/Luup start up I now get notified whenever Vera restarts - therefore it’s possible that the restart is the cause, (I need to do more testing) and it’s some how linked to a EZ Motion motion sensor as that’s the trigger for the light…
All of this is strange as it has never been an issue before and it’s not every night (even if Vera was to do a restart)
Anyway I was curious to find out if you found out the cause to yours.[/quote]
Mine ended up being due to the iPhone Locator plug-in. I had the radius set too small so it kept thinking I was leaving my house and then immediately returning in the middle of the night. I have my lights set to turn off when I leave and turn on when I return home so that constant leaving/returning was causing them to turn on in the middle of the night. I increased the radius of my “present” setting and the problems went away.