I switched modem/routers yesterday but forgot to remove the static IP from the Vera. I went ahead and activated the new modem/router through Comcast and figured I’d be able to change the LAN of the new modem/router to be my usual LAN. Turns out that my usual LAN IP is reserved for the Guest network in the new modem/router and is unchangeable.
My question is, how can I gain access into the Vera when it’s on a different LAN IP?
I tried connecting my old modem/router to the new modem/router so the Vera would connect to the old LAN wifi. However I was unable to connect to the Vera’s UI. I tried giving the Vera’s MAC pass thru but that didn’t work either.
I am going to try turning on the guest wifi of the new modem/router. Hopefully I’ll be able to access the Vera through that since that would be the least time consuming. If not, the plan is to reactivate the old modem/router with Comcast, change the Vera’s IP to dynamic, then reactivate the new modem/router and change the Vera’s IP back to static. If you have another suggestion, aside from resetting the Vera and connecting all my devices back to it, let me know.
What you are intending to do sounds like a good plan for me.
However, I would highly suggest that you change your Vera to use dynamic IP assignment, then use IP reservation on your router (specifying the MAC address of your Vera) to assign the fixed IP address. That way when you change routers, you can still access your Vera without all of this commotion.
Question: Is your new IP address scheme in the same segment as the old (i.e. 192.168.x.yyy is x the same digit). If not, it will be more difficult to access your vera (but it can be done).
One other trick you can try: Directly connecting to your vera with your computer. You might need to assign a fixed address to your computer temporarily. When connected, change your vera to Dynamic IP (as above), then reconnect everything as normal.
Is your new IP address scheme in the same segment as the old
Unfortunately that’s the problem, the new LAN gateway is 192.168.0.1 and the old was 192.168.1.1.
you can acess it just like before
Since the LAN is different now I can’t access it like before without an extra step regardless of the UI version.
Directly connecting to your vera with your computer
I was wondering about this as well but with the vera statically using the 1.1 gateway, it sounds similar to what I attempted already with the modem/routers connected together. I still don’t understand why that didn’t work. I’ll try the guest wifi first when I get home to see if it’ll provide access to the 1.1 gateway. If not, then I’ll give this a try
change your Vera to use dynamic IP assignment, then use IP reservation on your router
I don’t recall why I gave the vera a static IP in the first place, I think I was just playing around with settings. I thought I changed it back to dynamic already but was kicking myself last night once I realized. :-[
So if the router provides a reserved IP to a MAC address, the device with that MAC will automatically use that reserved IP? Even if the device is set dynamically? I didn’t realize that but it makes sense. I’ve been used to IP camera’s that have to have the IP set static on the camera due to port forwarding but maybe I’m wrong on that too?
So if the router provides a reserved IP to a MAC address, the device with that MAC will automatically use that reserved IP? Even if the device is set dynamically? I didn't realize that but it makes sense. I've been used to IP camera's that have to have the IP set static on the camera due to port forwarding but maybe I'm wrong on that too?
Specifying to use a dynamic IP address on a device actually just means that the device requests the IP address and other settings (Mask, gateway, DNS, etc) from the DHCP server (which is usually the router). You can have only one DHCP server in a local network. Using IP reserveration means that the DHCP sever (router) always assigns a specific IP address to that device. So the device in effect has a static, unchanging IP address. Works on cameras, Vera, or anything else you want to have an unchanging IP address for (including for port forwarding). And using IP reservation avoids issues that you have got yourself into. Note that instructions for assigning an IP address to a MAC address is different for different brands of routers, so read the router instructions. Some routers require that the assigned IP address be within the dynamic IP address pool, some routers require that it be outside of the dynamic IP address pool (and you can change the dynamic IP address pool range if necessary).
Trying the guest network sounds like a good place to start. You might see a problem that your router denies access between the guest network and your private network. See if the router has an option to turn that restriction off (temporarily, of course).
Connecting directly from your computer to Vera should also work (i.e. direct ethernet cable connection), but you will need to set your computer’s network settings to a static IP address on the same segment as Vera (since there will no longer be a DHCP server around), along with the other network settings. Remember to turn them back when you are done.
Where is your old router? Just plug in to power and plug your computer laptop in (or wifi) and plug the vera into it. Doesn’t matter if it has connection to cable or internet. It’s still a router even without the modem.
Issue resolved! Thanks again! Fortunately, that wasn’t very complicated
I tried the old router last night and then just tried the guest network first today, neither could access the vera. Those options should work though because I just moved on to the direct vera-to-PC connection without going further.
Here’s the pc LAN adapter TCP/IPv4 properties to set:
The pc IP address as 192.168.81.10
The default gateway as 192.168.81.1
The subnet as 255.255.255.0
Open a browser and go to the default gateway to login to the vera.
I only read about that on another blog otherwise I would’ve attempted the static IP address I had set vera before, which wasn’t working via old router or new guest network. Those 81.1 settings are apparently built into the vera regardless of what network settings you configure into it.
[quote=“indub, post:7, topic:184455”]Issue resolved! Thanks again! Fortunately, that wasn’t very complicated
I tried the old router last night and then just tried the guest network first today, neither could access the vera. The direct vera-to-PC connection was/is the way to go in this situation.
FYI, the pc’s LAN adapter TCP/IPv4 properties need to change to the following:
The pc IP address as 192.168.81.10
The default gateway as 192.168.81.1
The subnet as 255.255.255.0
Open a browser and go to the default gateway to login to the vera.
Those settings are apparently built into the vera regardless of what network settings you configure into it.
