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Now as the IKEA Tradfri smart lights is released with their own gateway, is there a plugin under development for the Vera to interoperate with the IKEA gateway?
opened 12:03PM - 27 Mar 17 UTC
closed 02:41PM - 29 Jul 19 UTC
enhancement
Ikea have just released a new app-controlled network-attached home automation hu… b which will serve as a Gateway to control its new "Trådfri" series of affordable smart lights / lightbulbs, switches / remotes, and sensors, which in turn so far all uses ZigBee based protocols. These products are set to be released on the 31st of March 2017 in selected countries around the world.
https://www.cnet.com/news/ikeas-rolling-out-a-brand-new-smart-home-lineup/
http://www.ikea.com/ms/sv_SE/customer-service/about-our-products/smart-lighting/index.html
"Trådfri" means 'wireless' in Swedish, and Ikea have so far announced this very aggresivly low-priced network-attached (Ethernet) "Ikea Trådfri Gateway" home automation hub in their "Tradfri" series, as well as a wireless Motion Sensor Kit (that have integrated light sensor too), a wireless Dimmer Remote (which is accelerator-based), a wireless multi-switch remote, and several smart light bulbs of different formats and even a few unique panel lights. All these products will then be released in most other contries worldwide too as Ikea steps up manufacturing (and irons our the initial software bugs I guess).
Ikea had already leaked news about this upcoming gateway/hub more than 6-months ago, during the summer or 2016, and at that time they also revealved that they will use ZigBee and keep validated access to the gateway/hub as open as possible, including providing an open API for this network-attached home automation hub.
Ikea in Sweden are first to post this news about the network-connected Home Automation Gateway / Hub, but again these products will become available worldwide. Here is link to the Swedish links:
http://www.ikea.com/se/sv/catalog/categories/departments/living_room/36812/
http://www.ikea.com/se/sv/catalog/products/40337806/
http://www.ikea.com/se/sv/catalog/products/80338960/
http://www.ikea.com/se/sv/catalog/products/80338941/
http://www.ikea.com/se/sv/catalog/products/80349888/
Link are in Swedish for Ikea Sweden site, but the PDF manuals on each page are available in English and many more languages, however they don't say much other than mounting instructions.
http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_US/img/buying_guides/fy17/april/Home_Smart_lighting_Buying_guide_APRIL1.pdf
Reason why I think that this news being interested is Ikea's aggresive pricing might them the first to make two-way communication home automation really affordable for almost everyone while still following all the electrical safety and wireless communications regulations in all countries, as they are today well known to have very low prices yet good manufacturing quality items.
UPDATE 1: Sound as Ikea Trådfri Gateway software uses the Cypress WICED IoT platform SDK (formerly Broadcom WICED IoT platform before acquired by Cypress http://www.cypress.com/internet-things-iot ) and have choosen to base their implementation on OMA (Open Mobile Alliance) and Eclipse recommended IoT protocol standards of those three logical components; CoAP (coaps) and DTLS layers of the LwM2M (Lightweight machine-to-machine) security model for IoT device management and protocol stack, using IPSO (IP for Smart Objects) Smart Object Guidelines provide a common design pattern. That is, looks as if the communication between Android/iOS app and the Gateway takes place via OMA Lightweight M2M (LwM2M) wrapped in CoAP with DTLS.
http://openmobilealliance.org/data-models-for-the-internet-of-things/
Update 2: Jaime Jiménez (from the company Ericsson) who is an active member of the IPSO Alliance’s working group and part of the team that published the IPSO Smart Object Guidelines, posted this great teardown of the Ikea Trådfri implementation:
http://jaimejim.github.io/tradfri/
For those who don’t know, LWM2M is a protocol built around CoAP and use for managing devices. So things like firmware upgrades, error reports, etc. Apart form the management interfaces, LWM2M also adds a very simple Object Model for managing those devices. IPSO expands that set of Objects so that you can have application information too (e.g. sensor readings, commands, etc). IPSO defines objects and resources that map to device properties.
Particular pay attention to the IPSO Light Control objects:
https://github.com/IPSO-Alliance/pub/blob/master/reg/xml/3311.xml
If you want to know more about the wealth of data models out there you can check the IoTSI Workshop as a reference.
https://www.iab.org/activities/workshops/iotsi/
LwM2M (Lightweight machine-to-machine) meanwhile is a system standard in the Open Mobile Alliance. It includes DTLS, CoAP, Block, Observe, SenML and Resource Directory and weaves them into a device-server interface along with an Objects structure based on IPSO Smart Object Guidelines.
https://connect2.io/open-mobile-alliance-lightweightm2m-oma-lwm2m/
https://www.eclipsecon.org/na2014/sites/default/files/slides/Eclipsecon%20NA14%20-%20One%20protocol%20to%20rule%20them%20all-%20(1).pdf
http://openmobilealliance.org/constrained-application-protocol-coap-is-iots-modern-protocol/
IPSO provide common object model for interoperability of IoT Devices and Applications.
https://github.com/IPSO-Alliance/pub/blob/master/reg/README.md
https://github.com/IPSO-Alliance/pub/tree/master/reg/xml
https://github.com/IPSO-Alliance/pub/blob/master/reg/xml/3311.xml
https://github.com/IPSO-Alliance/pub
The system is very pricey compared to philips hue, and as I have a Vera and considering to buy a system with some kind of bulbs this would be very interesting.
tixme
May 3, 2017, 12:32pm
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I have 2 bulbs, a remote and the gateway but i cant get it to work with my Vera plus. They dont use the same Zigbee protocol i think.
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For what I’ve seen surfing the net, they uses different versions of the Zigbee protocol. Vera uses ZHA and IKEA ZLL, (also Philips HUE uses ZLL for example)
What we need is a plugin for Vera to communicate with the IKEA gateway, not operate the bulbs by itself.
IKEA announces they’ll add support for Homekit, Google Assistant and Amazon Alexa; coming this fall.
Only Vera left
rge
May 29, 2017, 9:11am
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ZLL is a subset of ZHA, they aren’t different versions as such and in theory Vera should automatically support ZLL.
Of course, nobody ever seems to quite meet the specifications :
I have Vera supporting Hue. I’ve just added TradFri. If both Hue and Tradfri are using the same protocol, should I be able to tell Vera to recognize the Ikea system?
How?
Thanks.
I have Ikea Tradfri Gateway , Raspberry Pi and Vera.
With python pytradfri class I can easily control my lighting from Raspberry Pi.
Maybe we can make a Vera’s virtual device and just run remotely a script on Raspberry Pi?
Corpze
June 30, 2017, 6:30pm
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Anyone who has been able to control tradfri from Vera?
[quote=“macphd, post:6, topic:196215”]I have Vera supporting Hue. I’ve just added TradFri. If both Hue and Tradfri are using the same protocol, should I be able to tell Vera to recognize the Ikea system?
How?
Thanks.[/quote]
Yes, and no… Tradfri and Hue uses the same protocol, but interoperability between them ain’t supported at the moment.
IKEA is working towards HUE/Tradfri working together in a future update. Expected to be launched this fall together with support for Homekit, Alexa and Google Assistant.
You can now connect ikea tradfri bulbs to an existing Philips hue hub.
rge
September 18, 2017, 11:44am
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Some sort of link to the details would be helpful
Has anyone successfully managed to control Tradfri bulbs in Vera via a Hue hub? I have a Tradfri bulb added to my Hue bridge and everything is working fine in the Hue app but the bulb does not show up in Vera UI7 like the rest of my Hue bulbs do. Is there a reason for this?
Hi, I have also just added two Ikea bulbs(latest FW) to my Hue bridge, works very good. But they don’t show up in Vera as devices, I can only see them in the advance tab for the Hue plugin device and operate all via hue scenes, but I cannot get them up as standalone devices. I read somewhere that this is because the hue plugin checks the manufacturer of the device or something. Anyone else that have some input to this? Or even a fix?
gette
October 19, 2017, 8:35am
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same problem here, added 2 Tradfro GU10 light to mine Hue-hub. works fine with the hue app. But they don’t show up in Vera
A solution for using IKEA cheap light remote to control Vera scenes would be great. Would be cheaper than any z-wave switch or philips hue switch.
Sercan
November 3, 2017, 2:05pm
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Now Ikea Tradfri smart light system support HomeKit and Alexa. It will be great to control it with Vera.
No progress here yet? An update of the Hue plugin to include these lights in Vera would be very appreciated!
Same problem here, ikea lights are visible and controllable in the hue app. Vera is not showing them