ID Lock and vera

Other Devices & Integrations Door Locks & Sensors
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Hi I have been looking at the ID lock 101 (http://www.idlock.se/) to use with my vera plus.
Is anyone here using it and are you happy with it?

What can you do with the lock from the vera? (and how much manual configuring/programming is needed)
lock/unlock I assume?
See lock-status?
add/delete new codes?
see what code was used to unlock?
Trigger some scene/action when the door is unlocked depending on code used?
more?

please share you experience if you have an id lock 101!
BR
Jonas

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I don?t know anything about the lock 101 and I have not used the product, is this company known for making locks? Some of the Schlage?s locks do the same thing as the lock 101. One of the big problems is I have with these style of locks is when the battery dies in them how do you get in to your house? If a lock?s throw pin/bolt binds even a little (because the building has shifted) when opening or closing the lock you will go through a lot of batteries. Temperature shifting from warm to cold when the batteries are low are also often the cause of a lot of people getting locked out. So when looking for these types of locks I prefer that they have a key option as well rather than using a 9v battery to open the door when the batteries die in the lock.

Schlage

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I don’t think schlage have any locks with z-wave for europe (868mhz)? Same with yale…

Are there any other lock’s that work in europe with z-wave??? anyone knows?

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Hi

i have this lock with Vera plus, for the moment i can
*unlock/lock with app and web and i can se lock status
*add scene to lock door (work) but with some limitations
*Notification when lock/unlock
this is what i have for now find work with vera
the pdf funskjonsmatriseidlock say RFID, that one i cant get to work

but this lock is not yet supported by vera
this can be a help to https://www.intin.no/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/funskjonsmatriseidlock-1.pdf

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[quote=“jonrod, post:3, topic:196265”]I don’t think schlage have any locks with z-wave for europe (868mhz)? Same with yale…

Are there any other lock’s that work in europe with z-wave??? anyone knows?[/quote]Look on the zwave alliance page. Doesn’t mean these are available, but at least you know what to search for:

http://products.z-wavealliance.org/regions/1/categories/6/products

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How long does it take for vera to add new product http://products.z-wavealliance.org/products/2293 to there system to get full support and functions.

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I have 2x of this lock. The lock itselves works very good, but the Vera support could be better. I can see status, and open/lock the door. If i press open, the lock automaticly locks the door After 10 sec if someone have not open the door physicly.
The lock use more batteries than specified, I probably changes batteries every 3 months.

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about the batteries i have note the same, A bit better when I followed this advice http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=47544.0

hope vera fix the support of this lock

9

Asked vera-support about the integration of ID Lock and got the following answer:

We are already in discussions with ID Lock for correctly integrating into the Vera unit and we also have the sample. But due to the particularities of this lock, it might take a while until full integration will be achieved, so I?m sorry to tell you but it will take more than a few months, starting from now, to have it integrated into Vera.

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It is a nice looking lock but if support says months, I would think it will be more like years. Their website did not offer other languages, which tells me limited distribution of the product and therefore limited folks wanting to use this product with Vera.

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I guess its time to lock for a another controller :frowning:

12

I have had my lock for about 1 year now and as mentioned before you can right now with Vera: Add Pin, Door Status (open/closed) and Lock/UnLock door.

ID lock told me they had “full” Z-Wave support. That might be true, and they also sent a lock to Vera support as mentioned in this thread before as well and this was more than a year now at least.
I have not seen any new progress and I asked ID Lock again about it last month, but they just responded that they are waiting for Vera… :frowning:

The lock is working great, looks great on the door and does the basics. So I would recommend it, but if you are looking to do more like me, ie Arm/Unarm the lock when a special user adds their code or would like to trigger some event when door is locked form inside etc you will have to wait…

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how did you add pin code to work, and can you change pin code with phone app, and can you se if door is open or close (door satus). I can only se if its Lock/unlock
and its no good that we have to wait so long for vera support for this lock, because of that i wait to buy more z wave products.

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Hi

Just got it up and running. Very pleased with the lock but not much functionality in vera. This will come with updates, just hope it happens soon

Have one problem though. When the door is locked and I unlock it, it does that. However, it then automatically locks it again after a couple of seconds. I have turned of automatic lock.

Any encountered this?

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[quote=“Stiansen, post:14, topic:196265”]However, it then automatically locks it again after a couple of seconds. I have turned of automatic lock.

Any encountered this?[/quote]

if you dont open the door after you unlock it, it go back to lock again

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Has anyone had any luck configuring PIN codes to the lock from Vera?

I can only get it to work by adding the PIN codes on the lock itself and I am limited to one master PIN code and one additional user PIN code, so everyone in the family shares the same and no option to set up a temporary PIN code for the occasional visitor (janitor or similar).

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How is your experience with ID Lock and Vera so far?

I am looking to get ID Lock 150, but only if I can make it work properly with Vera.

One important functionality I need is that Vera detects the “Away mode” from the lock. This is the only way I can use it to arm/disarm the alarm, as the lock does not report differently if it is locked from the outside or the inside. I don’t want to arm the alarm when it is locked from the inside, obviously. And I don’t want a separate keypad for the alarm system, we are into automation, right? :wink:

Would really appreciate it if any of you with experience could comment on this.

Thank you!

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I’m not sure how you mean by “detecting” the “Away” mode?
But you could create a scene that checks for an entered PIN on the ID Lock…and change your house mode accordingly.

I use mine to disarm my sensors and cameras and changing the house mode to “Home” when certain PIN codes are entered. But for arming, I use an Aeotec Wallmote.
But both arm/disarm are triggering scenes that take care of my logic.

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[quote=“kellerman, post:18, topic:196265”]I’m not sure how you mean by “detecting” the “Away” mode?
But you could create a scene that checks for an entered PIN on the ID Lock…and change your house mode accordingly.

I use mine to disarm my sensors and cameras and changing the house mode to “Home” when certain PIN codes are entered. But for arming, I use an Aeotec Wallmote.
But both arm/disarm are triggering scenes that take care of my logic.[/quote]

When the lock is set to “Away” mode by entering the pin after locking, it will change parameter 1 to “Enable Away” (value 2 or 3) and then send a status report to the controller. Is Vera able to pick this up? If it can, this could trigger the “Arm Alarm” scene. That is what I am looking for.

Checking for PIN will only be for open action, not close, right? So I can’t arm the alarm system based on it, correct? It will of course solve the disarm alarm scene, so that is good!

I don’t use house modes, I find them useless for security devices. Changing the mode will arm/disarm sensors no matter what state they are in (tripped/untripped). So if a motion detector is tripped or a door/window is open when you switch mode, it will trigger the alarm immediately. Instead, I have dedicated, scripted scenes for alarm functionality that takes care of this.

What I need is a trigger for my “Arm Alarm” scene from the door lock. A button will of course work too, not a bad idea. Thanks!

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Well…if you use the House mode statuses…you could achieve this :wink:

I do my logic like:
if PIN entered and house mode set to away → then disarm

You could do:
if PIN entered and house mode set to home → then arm

[quote=“Thorden, post:19, topic:196265”][quote=“kellerman, post:18, topic:196265”]I’m not sure how you mean by “detecting” the “Away” mode?
But you could create a scene that checks for an entered PIN on the ID Lock…and change your house mode accordingly.

I use mine to disarm my sensors and cameras and changing the house mode to “Home” when certain PIN codes are entered. But for arming, I use an Aeotec Wallmote.
But both arm/disarm are triggering scenes that take care of my logic.[/quote]

When the lock is set to “Away” mode by entering the pin after locking, it will change parameter 1 to “Enable Away” (value 2 or 3) and then send a status report to the controller. Is Vera able to pick this up? If it can, this could trigger the “Arm Alarm” scene. That is what I am looking for.

Checking for PIN will only be for open action, not close, right? So I can’t arm the alarm system based on it, correct? It will of course solve the disarm alarm scene, so that is good!

I don’t use house modes, I find them useless for security devices. Changing the mode will arm/disarm sensors no matter what state they are in (tripped/untripped). So if a motion detector is tripped or a door/window is open when you switch mode, it will trigger the alarm immediately. Instead, I have dedicated, scripted scenes for alarm functionality that takes care of this.

What I need is a trigger for my “Arm Alarm” scene from the door lock. A button will of course work too, not a bad idea. Thanks![/quote]