How to Remote Away Arm? (Not Stay) ***SOLVED***

Plugins & Plugin Development DSC Alarm System
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If I remote arm my DSC 5020 system from the dashboard or any of my android clients, it will arm and says Stay Arm. This will make my motions useless.
I arm with either the “ARM” or “STAY” “FORCE” buttons and after the delay, I get the same “Stay Armed” notification saying the system is armed in the stay mode.
If I arm the system with the dashboard or client and open a delay door while the delay is going on, I get the Away armed which is what I want. Most times I am not there to open a door while the exit delay is going on.

Does anyone know how to make the buttons on the “ARM” button work correctly?
Does anyone know how to make the arm button on any of the clients arm the system in the Away Arm mode?
It is a programming option on the panel?

Thanks

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I noticed something similar on my setup. If you use the standard arming and remotely arm (no delay zone is tripped before the system is armed) the DSC assumes you’re home and arms in stay mode.

I think the panel needs to be configured a certain way, but I haven’t had a chance to look at it in detail. For the time being, here’s the workaround I’ve been using to ensure it arms as away.

[ol][li]Create an alarm arm scene.[/li]
[li]Under the advanced tab, select your alarm and set RequestQuickArmMode (not requestarmmode)[/li][/ol]
to Armed.
[/list]

I don’t know if this is the proper way to set it up, but it seems to be working for now.

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[ul][quote=“silencery, post:2, topic:175310”]I noticed something similar on my setup. If you use the standard arming and remotely arm (no delay zone is tripped before the system is armed) the DSC assumes you’re home and arms in stay mode.

I think the panel needs to be configured a certain way, but I haven’t had a chance to look at it in detail. For the time being, here’s the workaround I’ve been using to ensure it arms as away.

[list type=decimal]
[li]Create an alarm arm scene.[/li]
[li]Under the advanced tab, select your alarm and set RequestQuickArmMode (not requestarmmode)[/li][/list] to Armed.[/ul]

I don’t know if this is the proper way to set it up, but it seems to be working for now.[/quote]

I believe that is the only way to do it. Just looked over the envisalink TPI documentation, and the code for the plugin. There doesn’t seem to be any other way around it becuase of the way DSC alarms work when a PIN code is used.

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[quote=“huveu, post:3, topic:175310”][ul][quote=“silencery, post:2, topic:175310”]I noticed something similar on my setup. If you use the standard arming and remotely arm (no delay zone is tripped before the system is armed) the DSC assumes you’re home and arms in stay mode.

I think the panel needs to be configured a certain way, but I haven’t had a chance to look at it in detail. For the time being, here’s the workaround I’ve been using to ensure it arms as away.

[list type=decimal]
[li]Create an alarm arm scene.[/li]
[li]Under the advanced tab, select your alarm and set RequestQuickArmMode (not requestarmmode)[/li][/list] to Armed.[/ul]

I don’t know if this is the proper way to set it up, but it seems to be working for now.[/quote]

I believe that is the only way to do it. Just looked over the envisalink TPI documentation, and the code for the plugin. There doesn’t seem to be any other way around it becuase of the way DSC alarms work when a PIN code is used.[/quote]

I tried this and it does not arm for me. It says “Starting Scene Execution” in green under the scene but, the alarm remains unarmed.
Where do you put your alarm PIN?
I do have 2 partitions, maybe that is the reason. I have to select the partition instead of the alarm to see any quick arm options.
If I select the alarm as instructed, I do not have an option for the quick arm.
I want to check tomorrow, but I remember arming the alarm from the envisalink UI and was able to arm the alarm in the away mode without any delay doors being opened, but I may be wrong. I will verify this tomorrow. If so there has to be a way.

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[quote=“Jamr, post:4, topic:175310”][quote=“huveu, post:3, topic:175310”][ul][quote=“silencery, post:2, topic:175310”]I noticed something similar on my setup. If you use the standard arming and remotely arm (no delay zone is tripped before the system is armed) the DSC assumes you’re home and arms in stay mode.

I think the panel needs to be configured a certain way, but I haven’t had a chance to look at it in detail. For the time being, here’s the workaround I’ve been using to ensure it arms as away.

[list type=decimal]
[li]Create an alarm arm scene.[/li]
[li]Under the advanced tab, select your alarm and set RequestQuickArmMode (not requestarmmode)[/li][/list] to Armed.[/ul]

I don’t know if this is the proper way to set it up, but it seems to be working for now.[/quote]

I believe that is the only way to do it. Just looked over the envisalink TPI documentation, and the code for the plugin. There doesn’t seem to be any other way around it becuase of the way DSC alarms work when a PIN code is used.[/quote]

I tried this and it does not arm for me. It says “Starting Scene Execution” in green under the scene but, the alarm remains unarmed.
Where do you put your alarm PIN?
I do have 2 partitions, maybe that is the reason. I have to select the partition instead of the alarm to see any quick arm options.
If I select the alarm as instructed, I do not have an option for the quick arm.
I want to check tomorrow, but I remember arming the alarm from the envisalink UI and was able to arm the alarm in the away mode without any delay doors being opened, but I may be wrong. I will verify this tomorrow. If so there has to be a way.[/quote]

You do not use a PIN for quick arming. When you create the new scene you only use the advanced tab and it should look like the attached screenshot. In this example the “alarm” device I’m using to access the RequestQuickArm is the partition I believe (displays on the devices tab as the other screenshot that is attached)

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[quote=“huveu, post:5, topic:175310”][quote=“Jamr, post:4, topic:175310”][quote=“huveu, post:3, topic:175310”][ul][quote=“silencery, post:2, topic:175310”]I noticed something similar on my setup. If you use the standard arming and remotely arm (no delay zone is tripped before the system is armed) the DSC assumes you’re home and arms in stay mode.

I think the panel needs to be configured a certain way, but I haven’t had a chance to look at it in detail. For the time being, here’s the workaround I’ve been using to ensure it arms as away.

[list type=decimal]
[li]Create an alarm arm scene.[/li]
[li]Under the advanced tab, select your alarm and set RequestQuickArmMode (not requestarmmode)[/li][/list] to Armed.[/ul]

I don’t know if this is the proper way to set it up, but it seems to be working for now.[/quote]

I believe that is the only way to do it. Just looked over the envisalink TPI documentation, and the code for the plugin. There doesn’t seem to be any other way around it becuase of the way DSC alarms work when a PIN code is used.[/quote]

I tried this and it does not arm for me. It says “Starting Scene Execution” in green under the scene but, the alarm remains unarmed.
Where do you put your alarm PIN?
I do have 2 partitions, maybe that is the reason. I have to select the partition instead of the alarm to see any quick arm options.
If I select the alarm as instructed, I do not have an option for the quick arm.
I want to check tomorrow, but I remember arming the alarm from the envisalink UI and was able to arm the alarm in the away mode without any delay doors being opened, but I may be wrong. I will verify this tomorrow. If so there has to be a way.[/quote]

You do not use a PIN for quick arming. When you create the new scene you only use the advanced tab and it should look like the attached screenshot. In this example the “alarm” device I’m using to access the RequestQuickArm is the partition I believe (displays on the devices tab as the other screenshot that is attached)[/quote]

Thanks Huveu, for the input and the screen shots.
Got it, after finding and turning on the “Quick Arm” function in my alarm it now will arm in the “Arm” or “Away” mode.
I hate to think how many security holes I am opening up by doing this, but it is working.

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[quote=“Jamr, post:6, topic:175310”]Thanks Huveu, for the input and the screen shots.
Got it, after finding and turning on the “Quick Arm” function in my alarm it now will arm in the “Arm” or “Away” mode.
I hate to think how many security holes I am opening up by doing this, but it is working.[/quote]

The good thing about Quick Arm is that it doesn’t require a PIN code. I’m still not convinced with the VeraLite having my pin code stored. My current setup only allows disarming through the panel.

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I agree it is probably better than putting the pin in a scene.
I just wanted to clarify what I did in case anyone else needs to turn quick arming on in my DSC5020 to enable it to quick arm so it will arm in Away mode.

  1. Enter installer section, *08 then installers code (Default=5555).
  2. Enter 015.
  3. You should see numbers on top of display. If 4 is not on press it to make it visible and enable quick arming.
  4. Exit installer area by pressing the # button twice.

If you want detailed instructions for this panel they are on P22 Here.

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I believe you can change an “Armed Stay” into “Armed Away” by sending the code *0 to your DSC panel. (If memory serves me - best to check your manual)

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I know this is older but on my 1832 it is *1 (interior arm) *3 (door chime) *4(output control) *5 (no entry arming aka no entry delay).

With regards to the discussion above and arming in stay vs. away… I stumbled on this problem while testing scenes… this is a bit “dangerous”. Without better documentation stating this… people could be fully unaware they are in stay mode when they leave for work. Just saying.