Honeywell Lynx L5100 Rule + Scene + Schedule

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Hi, I have a Honeywell Lynx L5100 alarm to go with my Vera Lite. I have set up the Lynx as the Secondary Controller and I want to do something like:

When I disarm the alarm, turn on my hallway light, ONLY IF it is night time.

Some online search showed me ways to handle the disarm (rule) → turn on light (scene). But I could not figure out how to make it run conditionally (at night). As you can see, there is no point of turning on the light during the day time.

Any suggestions? Thank you.

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Search the forum for luup.is_night. There should be a few posts showing examples on how to use it. You would put this in the luup section of your scene to only have it run if it returns true which is nighttime.

  • Garrett
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Thanks Garrett. I got it to work if I am creating the scene with my Vera. But for this exercise, I would like to create the scene at my Honeywell Lynx so I can then tie it to the actual Disarm event of my alarm. I can’t seem to find a way to write Luup code with the Honeywell Lynx.

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Unfortunately I can not help you with that and you may not get much help regarding the Honeywell Lynx. But maybe there is some hope.

  • Garrett
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There is no way to connect your Lynx to the Vera.

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there is no way to connect the Lynx to the Vera?? Will there ever be? Im looking to upgrade to the L5100 and cant find anything about pairing them…why dont they make a plugin??

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Because from my understanding there is no api available or a way to communicate to the lynx.

  • Garrett
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Remote access to lynx is from Totalconnect. That is closed as it makes Honeywell money.

You need a panel with a keyboard that gets wired to an alarm board such as the vista series

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Currently, the only way to “pair” a Vera with Lynx L5100 is adding the L5100 to the Vera as a “Secondary Controller”. It worked for me (after several inclusion / exclusion attempts), but all it does at the end, is to copy the included devices from my Vera to the Lynx. The Vera CANNOT control the Lynx, and the Lynx CANNOT control the Vera either.

I have TotalConnect 2.0 with my L5100 too, it gives me some remote control capability (I can do everything with the free Vera Mobile app), EXCEPT to arm / disarm my L5100 alarm. But from a HA perspective, TotalConnect 2.0 does not offer me any additional value.

You know, Honeywell markets a lot about its functionality of “when you disarm, it can turn on a light for you” - but it is just so stupid if the light is being turned on even during the day time, because that means I need to make an extra effort to manually turn it off if I come home during day time.

As I type this, I started to think if any Luup expert that can help me with this:

  1. From Lynx, if disarm, turn on a light (existing Lynx function, not related to Vera)
  2. Have Vera detect this light is turned on by an external scene (Lynx) ← Is this possible?
  3. If light is turned on by external scene, and it is day time (luup.is_night == false), trigger a Vera scene to turn the light off

I know this is rather clumsy, as the light will probably flicker on and then off, but I am trying to see if it’s even possible. Any confirmation / script sample from Luup expert will be greatly appreciated!

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You know, there has to be a way, because the L5100 connect app that exists for the MID7H android tablet. You can side load it on to any tablet too. I have it running on a wall mounted Nexus as a second alarm panel. But that app works the L5100, so theres a way to do it. I am thinking in the part where you install remote panels. I will have to look into it more.

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We have two threads now…

Yes you can have Vera detect the light status. I played with this a lot. It is a rough experience if you are expecting things to be predictable within a few minutes, but for something you are only sort of paying attention to that could deviate several minutes, it works well.

Example - L5100 turns on courtesy light on door sensor open. Some time later the Vera turns it off. Let’s say 15 minutes. No problem.

Example - L5100 turns on hallway light on motion, and you can see the light from your bedroom, and you would like the Vera to turn it off within 3 minutes. Not great. Could take several extra minutes (based on cycles the Vera is working through).

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I think the point was. He is trying to do what we do with vista panels and DSC and any other panel with a plug in … And it won’t do that … Your sensors will not trigger a scene. You work around … May work. But is, as you say a round about way to do it.

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There is no publicly published api. You would need to reverse engineer the protocol to make it work.

  • Garrett
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[quote=“garrettwp, post:13, topic:179757”]There is no publicly published api. You would need to reverse engineer the protocol to make it work.

  • Garrett[/quote]

Yeah that’s what I’m saying. Reverse engineering the protocol might be possible with the L5100 Connect APK, that I got from getjar. Not the Total Connect 2.0 app. I hadn’t looked into decompiling an apk yet, but someone just sent me a pm here with instructions on how to do it. I am going to look into in over the next few weeks. I have a lot of projects going at the moment though, so it’s going to be slow going.

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So I had a thought on this last night. I can give you a method to Arm Stay, Arm Away, and Disarm the alarm through z-wave.

Parts:
3 x z-wave appliance modules
3 x Honeywell 5816 wireless 2 zone sensors
3 x 110v relays like these RadioShack.com Official Site - America's Technology Store

Have Vera momentarily turn on the appliance module to throw the relay which closes the loop on zone 1 of the 5816 sensor. In the Lynx 5100 Panel, install the 5816 sensor zone 1, and set it to disarm, or arm stay, or arm away. The only problem with this is that the appliance modules don’t use the same z-wave security as the door locks. I don’t know about a work around for that. Appliance modules are like $39, the relays are $5, and the 5816s are $25 (although you can find people giving them away all over the place). Total price would be $120 - $200, but you give Vera the ability to arm stay, arm away, and disarm the Lynx security system.

Josh

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[quote=“gijosh28, post:15, topic:179757”]So I had a thought on this last night. I can give you a method to Arm Stay, Arm Away, and Disarm the alarm through z-wave.

Parts:
3 x z-wave appliance modules
3 x Honeywell 5816 wireless 2 zone sensors
3 x 110v relays like these RadioShack.com Official Site - America's Technology Store

Have Vera momentarily turn on the appliance module to throw the relay which closes the loop on zone 1 of the 5816 sensor. In the Lynx 5100 Panel, install the 5816 sensor zone 1, and set it to disarm, or arm stay, or arm away. The only problem with this is that the appliance modules don’t use the same z-wave security as the door locks. I don’t know about a work around for that. Appliance modules are like $39, the relays are $5, and the 5816s are $25 (although you can find people giving them away all over the place). Total price would be $120 - $200, but you give Vera the ability to arm stay, arm away, and disarm the Lynx security system.

Josh[/quote]

Josh,

I’ve been trying to get the apk but I can’t get it from getjar as others have. Is there any chance you could email me the L5100 APK? I’m a newb so I can’t message you. Thanks!

Steve

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Hey Steve,

On your android device, use firefox, and put in an addon to set your user agent to Coby MID7012. Once you do that, l5100 connect will appear for you on getjar, and you will be able to download the apk. I could copy it off the android device to somewhere else for safe keeping. There’s no telling when Honeywell will take it down from getjar.

Thanks,
Josh

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Hi there, I’m looking for the L5100 connect apk and can’t seem to find it in getjar. I’m interested in learning more about the communication protocol for the Lynx 5100 so I can create a stand along application for monitoring. I have a copy of Lynx Connect but unfortunately that doesn’t work with my Lynx 5100.

Thanks,

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[quote=“gijosh28, post:17, topic:179757”]Hey Steve,

On your android device, use firefox, and put in an addon to set your user agent to Coby MID7012. Once you do that, l5100 connect will appear for you on getjar, and you will be able to download the apk. I could copy it off the android device to somewhere else for safe keeping. There’s no telling when Honeywell will take it down from getjar.

Thanks,
Josh[/quote]

Thanks it worked!!

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Has anyone had any luck reverse engineering the Lynx L5100 app?