I just take a look at the new beta version. 8)
The values for temperature and humidity sensors are really small. 
I like the expand/collapse feature. I like the commands that are not in a different window.
Is there is a difference between the full refresh in the bottom menu and the refresh icon at the top ?
[quote=“lolodomo, post:81, topic:170787”]I just take a look at the new beta version. 8)
The values for temperature and humidity sensors are really small.
I like the expand/collapse feature. I like the commands that are not in a different window.
Is there is a difference between the full refresh in the bottom menu and the refresh icon at the top ?[/quote]
I guess I can make the text bigger, but there’s only so much I can do with mobile device screen real estate. Any suggestions on how to alter the layout?
A FULL refresh clears the database, downloads ALL your user data and reconstructs your whole device/scene listing while a PARTIAL (top refresh) asks Vera for a delta from the last refresh and updates only devices that have changed, saving you time and bandwidth. If the deltas are too many, Vera requests for a FULL refresh, which Home Buddy detects and then asks you for confirmation. You can bypass this prompt if you want in the settings to tell Home Buddy to just go ahead and do so every time. I personally prefer to keep the prompt so that if I wanted to quickly execute a command before triggering a full refresh, I’d still have a chance to do so.
I hope that clears things up a little bit.
I’m getting the static camera image now. It is extending beyond the edges of the screen by about 40%. Looks like it needs to be scaled. Also, streaming is now working.
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Regarding thermostat, my last guide mockup was pretty good. I’ll repost.
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QUOTE "It has also occurred to me that we should see radio toggles or button toggles, not both. My vote is radio toggles, so that there can be any number of options supported, without the need for modifying the layout. A complete list of options are shown below, and the current UI is missing a couple:
System Mode: Off, Heating, Cooling, Auto (this is already a radio, but is missing the label ‘System Mode’)
Fan Mode: On, Auto (changed from 2 buttons to 1 radio)
Run Mode: Hold, Run, Energy Save Mode (changed from 2 buttons to 1 radio)
My most current UI mock-ups are attached. One-service-per-row is noted as the simpler coding method. The rows do need to be taller though, as we are working with fingers, not a stylus. The temp increase/decrease buttons could also be < (less) > (greater) symbols as tends to be recognizable when using the single service per row UI, in my opinion."
For temp, I tend to prefer the left right, instead of up down. Also the cool controls should be hidden when set to hear mode and vice versa.
Favourite will do the task of hiding items that need to be unavailable
[quote=“rakstar, post:82, topic:170787”][quote=“lolodomo, post:81, topic:170787”]I just take a look at the new beta version. 8)
The values for temperature and humidity sensors are really small.
I like the expand/collapse feature. I like the commands that are not in a different window.
Is there is a difference between the full refresh in the bottom menu and the refresh icon at the top ?[/quote]
I guess I can make the text bigger, but there’s only so much I can do with mobile device screen real estate. Any suggestions on how to alter the layout?[/quote]
I think you could do for temperature and humidity sensors what you are already doing for the weather device for example, I mean displaying the value in an additional zone when pointing the device. Doing that, people who have no difficulty to read the value will have nothing to do, and others could have a little more readable value by pointing the device.
A setting to select text size would be interesting too.
The problem is not only the size but the overlapping of the text with the icon.
[quote=“jjwatmyself, post:85, topic:170787”]QUOTE "It has also occurred to me that we should see radio toggles or button toggles, not both. My vote is radio toggles, so that there can be any number of options supported, without the need for modifying the layout. A complete list of options are shown below, and the current UI is missing a couple:
System Mode: Off, Heating, Cooling, Auto (this is already a radio, but is missing the label ‘System Mode’)
Fan Mode: On, Auto (changed from 2 buttons to 1 radio)
Run Mode: Hold, Run, Energy Save Mode (changed from 2 buttons to 1 radio)
My most current UI mock-ups are attached. One-service-per-row is noted as the simpler coding method. The rows do need to be taller though, as we are working with fingers, not a stylus. The temp increase/decrease buttons could also be < (less) > (greater) symbols as tends to be recognizable when using the single service per row UI, in my opinion."
For temp, I tend to prefer the left right, instead of up down. Also the cool controls should be hidden when set to hear mode and vice versa.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Personally, I think the “System Mode” dropdown’s function is pretty obvious so, in the interest of saving screen real estate (thermostat options pretty much fill the whole screen on a phone already), I prefer to leave the label out. If you’re still unsure of it’s function, the label is on top of the popup that shows when you tap on it. As for the Fan control, my rule of thumb is – if the setting has only 2 options, show an on off switch, if more than 2, show a dropdown. My thermostat doesn’t have a Run Mode – are you refering to Energy Save Mode? If so, I can’t change that because Vera presents it to me as a binary switch, hence the 2 buttons.
Regarding the left and right buttons, I tried it but it looks a bit awkward to me (screenshot below)… I guess it’s really personal preference. Can I get a vote from the community? Up/Down or Left/Right arrows for thermostat controls?
I prefer the up-down button for the thermostat. My inner-engineer craves the logic of “up” to increase and “down” to decrease.
On a different note, I am still getting the “ERROR: Refresh failed. Please check your settings. (java.lang.NullPointerException)” message when doing the partial refreshes. Full refreshes are fine. I’ve uninstalled, reinstalled, cleared data, etc. I know you’re still chasing down bugs, so this isn’t a complaint, just want to make sure you know it’s still happening.
I noticed that you changed how the power consumption is displayed, especially on power monitors. I like it. (I was sad when the early betas required you to open the power monitoring device to see the power consumption). Thanks for the change.
If you’re bored and looking to do some visual design changes, the power monitor icon is significantly larger than most of the other icons. Now that you are overlaying the power data on top of the icon, it’s a bit hard to read. See the attachment. Obviously this doesn’t impact performance, so this is a low-priority request.
rakstar - Thanks again for all your hard work on this. Love the app!
[quote=“rakstar, post:88, topic:170787”][quote=“jjwatmyself, post:85, topic:170787”]QUOTE "It has also occurred to me that we should see radio toggles or button toggles, not both. My vote is radio toggles, so that there can be any number of options supported, without the need for modifying the layout. A complete list of options are shown below, and the current UI is missing a couple:
System Mode: Off, Heating, Cooling, Auto (this is already a radio, but is missing the label ‘System Mode’)
Fan Mode: On, Auto (changed from 2 buttons to 1 radio)
Run Mode: Hold, Run, Energy Save Mode (changed from 2 buttons to 1 radio)
My most current UI mock-ups are attached. One-service-per-row is noted as the simpler coding method. The rows do need to be taller though, as we are working with fingers, not a stylus. The temp increase/decrease buttons could also be < (less) > (greater) symbols as tends to be recognizable when using the single service per row UI, in my opinion."
For temp, I tend to prefer the left right, instead of up down. Also the cool controls should be hidden when set to hear mode and vice versa.
[/quote]
Thanks for the suggestions. Personally, I think the “System Mode” dropdown’s function is pretty obvious so, in the interest of saving screen real estate (thermostat options pretty much fill the whole screen on a phone already), I prefer to leave the label out. If you’re still unsure of it’s function, the label is on top of the popup that shows when you tap on it. As for the Fan control, my rule of thumb is – if the setting has only 2 options, show an on off switch, if more than 2, show a dropdown. My thermostat doesn’t have a Run Mode – are you refering to Energy Save Mode? If so, I can’t change that because Vera presents it to me as a binary switch, hence the 2 buttons.
Regarding the left and right buttons, I tried it but it looks a bit awkward to me (screenshot below)… I guess it’s really personal preference. Can I get a vote from the community? Up/Down or Left/Right arrows for thermostat controls?[/quote]
Wow, very tempting! 
Would the prospect of greater than or less than symbols appeal to the engineer? I think that we should stick with radio drop down for all three instead of a mixture of radio and toggles. I kind of have a hard time figuring out which of the toggles is selected.
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Update released today featuring new launcher/shortcut icons care of Peter Dillon. Please check his site out.
Apart from the icons, this update features the following changes:
- Auto-local bugfix
- Changed up/down icons for HVAC to left/right
- Now dims device icons if text overlay is present
- Feedback for camera streaming errors
- Scale camera still image to fit width
- Concord Alarm support
Love the less and greater temp controls. Camera resize is significantly better. Thank you!
Have you thought about modifying the top half inch of the screen layout to be included in the scrollable zone? When in landscape, it would give loads more real estate. Another app that does this nicely is Browser in ICS.
I was just wondering if the Elk M1Gold alarm panel is going to be supported.
Thanks
John
Real nice! Is it possible to get a shortcut to the voice prompt directly? (i.e. so there’s no need to open up the app, and then click on the voice button). Better yet, would it be possible to integrate directly from google voice search? (i.e. "homebuddy, run this scene).
-Ted
[quote=“jjwatmyself, post:92, topic:170787”]Love the less and greater temp controls. Camera resize is significantly better. Thank you!
Have you thought about modifying the top half inch of the screen layout to be included in the scrollable zone? When in landscape, it would give loads more real estate. Another app that does this nicely is Browser in ICS.[/quote]
You’re welcome.
That’s an interesting idea. I use action bar sherlock for that top bar… not sure it they support that, but I’ll look into it.
[quote=“jwiz, post:93, topic:170787”]I was just wondering if the Elk M1Gold alarm panel is going to be supported.
Thanks
John[/quote]
If you send me your user data I could probably add support for it. Thanks.
[quote=“tedp, post:94, topic:170787”]Real nice! Is it possible to get a shortcut to the voice prompt directly? (i.e. so there’s no need to open up the app, and then click on the voice button). Better yet, would it be possible to integrate directly from google voice search? (i.e. "homebuddy, run this scene).
-Ted[/quote]
The shortcut was actually my real intention, it’s just that I had trouble getting it to behave properly but wanted to get it out there for people to test. Not sure if it’s possible to integrate into voice search though… I could check.
[quote=“rakstar, post:96, topic:170787”][quote=“jwiz, post:93, topic:170787”]I was just wondering if the Elk M1Gold alarm panel is going to be supported.
Thanks
John[/quote]
If you send me your user data I could probably add support for it. Thanks.[/quote]
I emailed my user data to you.
Thanks
John
I love this app, just need to get it to work properly when my phone leave my wifi network.
Hey Rakstar,
The latest beta works great in local mode, but cannot seem to connect in remote mode. When in remote mode, the circled arrow just spins indefinitely, and the application locks up. When I set up, I entered the user name and password, and it found my Vera just fine. I’ve specified the Vera IP address in the setup to ID it for local mode, but left the SSIDs blank so I could access locally from either of the 2 APs I have in my house (with different SSIDs).
Any idea as to what might be up? Also, would it be possible to run the old version and beta concurrently? It’d be nice to revert to the released version when something goes awry with the beta.
Thx
-Ted