Heatmiser Neo Thermostats

Other Devices & Integrations Climate Control & Temperature Sensors
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Hi racarter

Many thanks for your reply. Can I ask, do you personally use the Heatmiser system yourself and have a view of this product compared to others you may or may not have tried?

Finally, to what levels of automation does your plugin allow users to do things with the Vera zwave controller?

Thanks.

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Yes, I use Neo myself. I had a Heatmiser WiFi thermostat initially and developed a plug-in for that. When the Neo came out Heatmiser were kind enough to let me have a Neohub, Neostat and Neoplug for development purposes, hence this plug-in.

I haven’t used other connected thermostats so can’t comment, but the Heatmiser with plug-in does everything I need:

  1. Monitor and control temperature and mode from Vera dashboard, scenes and PLEG.

  2. Switch hall thermostat to frost protection mode if front door is open too long, to avoid heating the street.

  3. Vary operation if guests are staying; for example if a baby is present switch on the heating if the bedroom temperature drops too low.

I’m sure other users will have more suggestions; for example, one user delays switching off the heating at night in a room if it’s occupied.

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U587162. I’m one of the ones that talked to Vesternet about promoting the neo. I had a lot of conversations with them about a full zwave solution before I knew about Heatmiser and racarter had written this. I actually got the Heatmiser before the plugin was available.
I have 14 neostats, all wired and think it’s a much more flexible setup than a full zwave one. I ok override timers and temp using pleg based on motion sensors (thanks ask to racarter texecoom plugin) and gcal plugin and iPhone locators. Plus use alexa to control them.

I looked at evohome as I have 4 rooms on one zones and wanted the trvs but iy was very expensive to do. I’m still considering adding a zwave one or 2 and using pleg to do some fine tuning.

I like that it works if the Vera goes down and can still have its own recipe overrides ifttt control outside Vera.

As an example We occasionally work from home doing the week when the timer is off and now if it motion is detected after 8am mon-fri it turns on the heating downstairs and then the standard evening program kicks in at 6.

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simonclark,

Thanks for that feedback. Yes Mark at Vesternet also told me about the problems of a zwave thermostat and the difficulty in getting it to work properly.

I’m about to order my wet UFH anytime now (Floor heating warehouse) and they only offer heatmiser. Some UFH companies that I met at the various shows (Grand Designs, Home Renovation Show etc) said they moved away from Heatmiser due to various reasons, hence why I was not sure.

I get a lot more comfort now knowing that there is a plugin here so will give it a go. I have both a Fibaro HC2 controller that I bought a while ago but not using and the Vera Edge+ which I have yet to open. Silly question but this plugin wont work with other controllers right?

What is the reference to texecom? I plan to install a texecom alarm system shortly too.

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u587162

You are correct - this plug-in is written for Vera and will not work on other platforms. I am also the developer of the Texecom plug-in, so when you’ve got your system (Premier 48 or later) give me a shout.

I’ve recently ported all my plug-ins to the Indigo platform too.

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Cool, I cant hide my excitement knowing all this.

I will be going for the Premier Elite with external perimeter sensors too (hard wired) and also the R8 (relay?) module. What will your plugin allow me to do? Will it require the alarm being not graded as level 2 or something if I try and make it more bespoke or if I jus take the outputs from the relay the grading will still remain fine?

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No idea about the grading - although I can’t see how remote operation via Texecom’s own published protocol would affect things.

The plug-in allows remote arm, part-arm and disarm of each partition, live monitoring of partition and zone statuses, remote keypad LED display, control and monitoring of programmable outputs and daily time synchronisation with Vera. The panel can be connected to Vera via LAN or USB.

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The combination of the heating and alarm done properly in independently reliable systems bit fully controllable from Vera is very good, and very exciting. I recommend the USB output from the telecom serial port to control it. As racarter says it’s telecoms own API and they even have controls on their iOS app to control home automation devices. The grading if the alarm is only relevant for insurance and monitoring. Does this imply you will be using someone setup and monitor it for you. You may need to check they would be happy with the extra control. Otherwise I and I beelibbe racarter have just done or all ourselves so the grading is irrelevant, other than security in knowing it’s a proper professional alarm that won’t fail if Vera crashes.

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I would want the grading for insurance purposes yes and the alarm installer will only give me access to the Texecom code after the one year service contract has expired, but then if I make any changes this will change the grading and potentially affect the insurance premium because it will not longer then be touched by alarm companies for obvious reasons i.e. no control over the alarm and faults etc with customers tinkering with it.

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Hi

just ordered a Vera edge and some other kit to start on the home automation. I already have a few Neostats installed, so hooking these up via the Vera would be very good. Could I get a copy of the plug-in please?

thanks

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I guess the concern would be whether the USB serial connection using the Texecom API could potentially change the settings, rather than control the alarm as a normal user. From memory, racarter would need to confirm, it may need the engineers code, which would mean you couldnt use it, also whether in theory the API gives full access to the setup of the alarm.

If they wont allow you to use the serial or ethernet connection and the API then yes, the RM8 relay is your only option, but you would then need to plug those outputs into zwave devices that Vera would recognise.

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[quote=“EllisO, post:50, topic:189200”]Hi

just ordered a Vera edge and some other kit to start on the home automation. I already have a few Neostats installed, so hooking these up via the Vera would be very good. Could I get a copy of the plug-in please?

thanks[/quote]

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hello RA Carter
can you send me the app plugin for the heatmiser please?

i have the Neo and want to use the vera platform ( i have the Veralite G) to control it, will the vera platform speak to the neo hub? or do i replace the neo hub with the veralite G

Also, is it possible to control the heating schedule from the thermostat and also in the vera app so that the most recent changes will overwrite the other? Or does the neo just become a slave to the Vera scenes?

appreciate your help!

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arbtguk,

The plug-in runs on Vera and talks to the hub, which in turn talks to the thermostat(s). The heating schedule runs on the thermostat but can be overridden by Vera if required. Once the override period has expired the thermostat resumes its normal schedule. It is not currently possible to amend the thermostat’s schedule via the plug-in.

I’ve PMed you about sending the plug-in.

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Hi Alan,

Could you please also send me a copy of the plugin.

Thanks,
James

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Hi James

I’ve PMed you.

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Hi Alan

Could I trouble you fit the plug in please. I am Just ordering some Neo Thermostats. I have the older RS485 version but not had much success in intergrating them.

Regards
Phil

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Phil

I’ve PMed you.

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Hi guys,

I’m new to the forum, soon my vera plus will arrive. One of my first projects is to be able to get more control over my CH, HW & UFH. Would someone be able to drop me a plugin for heatmiser neo, please ;D As I’m new member I don’t think I can send private messages ???

Thank You

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m.zukowski - I’ve PMed you.