Group 2 association on WT00Z-1.

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I can associate Group 1 on my WT00Z-1, but not Group 2. If I attempt to do so the Vera interface shows “Setting user association” in red on the WT00Z-1 device and it never goes away.

The WT00Z-1 can independently control 3 different devices via Group 1, 2 or 3 associations. What is the trick to using something other than Group 1? Note that I did add Group ID 2, but then it refuses to associate anything with it.

2

It can control several devices but only one group at a time. You just need to associate all the devices within the same group. It cannot support multiple groups. It only has 1. It is a single button switch, I don’t think it can control multiple devices independently. To support multiple groups you need multiple buttons (multiswitch)

3

It can control multiple groups with the one rocker switch…

To control group 1 single tap up or down to turn the group on/off.
To brighten/dim group 1 press and hold up or down.

To control group 2 precede the above with one extra tap so…
To control group 2 double tap up or down to turn the group on/off.
To brighten/dim group 2 single tap then press and hold up or down.

To control group 3 precede the group 1 instructions with 2 extra taps so…
To control group 3 triple tap up or down to turn the group on/off.
To brighten/dim group 3 double tap then press and hold up or down.

But alas, I can’t get it to associate group 2. Haven’t bothered to try group 3.

4

I see. Did not know that it actually could. Seems odd. I just looked at the manual and saw no mention of such functionality.

Edit:

I did the research for you… It seems that the multi group implementation is not really documented in part because this switch is not using the standard association method. Someone managed to do what you are trying to do using a minimote and associating to the a minimote button and then the WT to the WD(s) but the vera won’t do it.

5

It’s in my hard copy manual that came with the WT00Z-1 on page 2 under the section “Associating Z-wave devices to control from the WT00Z-1”

I looked online to find the manual in pdf form, but what I found (for the WT00Z-1) does not show this in that section. I’ll try to call the manufacture tomorrow to find out why there is a discrepancy. Perhaps they dropped that functionality and I have the wrong/old manual. Don’t know.

6

I’m a bad boy. I didn’t search enough here. I found…

[url=http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,23122.msg172504.html#msg172504]http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,23122.msg172504.html#msg172504[/url]

So basically it can’t do it, and my old manual is wrong.

7

Does this mean you are limited to using only 1 WT00Z-1 per household? I have added 1 to control a bedroom light but wanted to add another for another light in the house. Will both WTs be in group 1 and turn off/on the same lights simultaneously?

8

What @wgfbean discovered is that the WT00Z-1 only supports Group 1, despite the manual erroneously stating that it also supports Groups 2 and 3 as it did, a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

A single WT00Z-1 can control up to 5 Z-Wave devices in Group 1. For example a single WT00Z-1 switch can turn On/Off or dim up to 5 Z-Wave dimmable lights/switches at once.

A Z-Wave network can include numerous WT00Z-1 switches, up to the Z-Wave network node limit of 232.

If desired, numerous WT00Z-1 switches can be used to control a a single Z-Wave switch(circuit). For example A WD500Z-1 dimmer can be controlled by 1, 2, 3… or 30 WT00Z-1 switches. The WT00Z-1 is typically used to create virtual 3 or 4-way switched circuits.

It is very common for a house to have several pairs of WD500Z-1 dimmers and Wt00Z-1 accessory switches in virtual 3-way combinations.

9

To be clear:
Node #78 WT00Z-1 - Controlling Node #55-Bedroom PD300Z-2 - Group 1
Node #79 WT00Z-1 - Controlling Node #56-Bedroom PD300Z-2 - Group 1

This would make 2 separate PDs on/off controlled by 2 separate WTs even though they are in the same group? No overlap? Node #79 would NOT turn Node #55 on/off?

Thank you!

10

[quote=“AZJowett, post:9, topic:190006”]To be clear:
Node #78 WT00Z-1 - Controlling Node #55-Bedroom PD300Z-2 - Group 1
Node #79 WT00Z-1 - Controlling Node #56-Bedroom PD300Z-2 - Group 1

This would make 2 separate PDs on/off controlled by 2 separate WTs even though they are in the same group? No overlap? Node #79 would NOT turn Node #55 on/off?[/quote]
That is all correct.

It is at first confusing, but the Group is stored locally within each WT00Z-1 device. It is significant only within that single device. So Group 1 in one switch is not the same as Group 1 in any other switch. They could both be configured to include/control node 55, in which case, they would appear to be identical, but they are not the same group. No other device is aware of a single WT00Z-1 Group 1 configuration.

11

Excellent! It is so hard for us nontechs to understand the nuances when the instructions assume you know so much to begin with. I have more than 25 ZWave items no in my house along with a custom build zwave hot water control unit. The Datamining Associations only talk about using a minimote. So much so I finally spent a couple of hours in in trials to get the instructions down for the UI7 Vera setup.

Much appreciated!