GE 45610 and scene control

I have installed a 45610 and 45609 in a three way setup to control a light. Both switches work great. I have a scene that is triggered when the 45609 of the three way circuit is turned on. I assumed that the scene would also be triggered when the 45610 was turned on, since it just signals the 45609 to turn the light on. However, this does not appear to be the case. Is there a way to trigger the scene when the 45610 is used to turn the light on?

@rogergrayson,

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There is not, other than polling. So, eventually Vera should notice the state change. But this is a slow process (on purpose); it is not instant.

[quote=“oTi@, post:2, topic:171139”]@rogergrayson,

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Thanks! I’ve been thinking about picking up a Mi Casa Verde Vera for quite some time. I recently picked up the Lite, and have slowly started rolling out automated switches with the intent to move on to bigger things (door locks, motion sensors, cameras, etc).

There is not, other than polling. So, eventually Vera should notice the state change. But this is a slow process (on purpose); it is not instant.[/quote]
Bummer! That is the primary reason I picked up the 3-way switch kit. Use case here is a kitchen. I want all of the kitchen lights (there are 3 separate switch circuits) to turn on when the switch on either kitchen entrance is triggered. Is there a different solution, perhaps? Are there scene controllers that can be used in place of light switches?

Edit: What I would be looking for is a single scene controller that looks much like the 45610 switch.

Have a look at the Evolve LTM-5.

Thanks, that’s exactly what I’m looking for! The only downside is it seems to double the cost for 3 way switches in my house (where they are acting as a trigger). I can get the 45609/45610 kit for around $45, and the Evolve LTM-5 is around that price also.

Have you considered a motion sensor for the kitchen area?

(I use an HSM100 to do just that; it has a light sensor, so you can switch based on how dark it is.)

I have, but that won’t work in my case. We have a baby, and sometimes my wife walks through the kitchen when she’s walking him trying to get him to sleep. The lights coming on might have the opposite of the intended affect :wink:

I’ve already ordered the Evolve LTM-5, but it’s not scheduled to arrive for 10 days.

Do you have any experience with the Intermatic CA3000? I believe it’s supposed to support normal 3-way switches. It appears to be discontinued in a lot of places, though.

I don’t have experience with that switch but I can tell you that Intermatic discontinued all production of Z-wave products months ago. So you will have to hunt around to see who has stock on the device if you want to use it, and buy all you need while you still can. I’ve used the CA5100 single button scene controller and it works well, but I haven’t had it very long so I can’t comment on reliability.

Ah, I didn’t realize they discontinued all of their products. I did find the CA3000 on a couple sites for ~$80. I’m hesitant to pick one up at that price and knowing that it’s been discontinued and is probably not supported anymore.

Back to polling, is there a minimum polling rate? Would there be any issues with setting it as low as 5-10 seconds? I think that would be an acceptable delay, since it would take that long to walk over to any of the other kitchen switches. The Evolve LTM-5 isn’t supposed to arrive until the 17th, so I’m investigating my options for the other 3-way switches I’m going to replace.

You can’t set Vera to poll a switch that often (well, you can with LUUP code)

When you set the polling intervals, you are setting the minimum time to poll a device. Vera will still be polling other devices, and won’t get around to polling your kitchen light that quickly.

As for my comment about LUUP code doing it, you could have a scene firing over and over, which polls the light. However, I don’t even know if Vera could poll that often and still keep up with everything else. Polls take a second or two anyway.