GE 12729 ramp rate

I got a couple sets of 12729 and 12728 dimmers and they work great but the ramp rate is really low. When I walk in to my living room I want them to snap on and I can’t find any documentation to change it. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I’m running a veralite with UI5.

The following is from the manual of the older 45612 dimmer. Does the 12729 not offer similar instructions? If not, the dim rate may not be adjustable on the newer switch. I don’t know.

If all else fails, you could try the settings from the older switch and see if it works.

[quote=“45612 Manual”]Dim Rate Adjustments
Both the number of steps (or levels) that the dimmer will change
and the timing of the steps can be modified to suit personal
preferences. The timing of the steps can be adjusted in 10
millisecond intervals.
1… When Receiving a Z-Wave Dim Command
? Parameter 7 (number of steps or levels)
? Parameter 8 (timing of the steps)
? Length: 1 Byte
? Valid Values:
Parameter 7 (default = 1) Valid Values: 1-99
Parameter 8 (default = 3) Valid Values: 1-255

  1. Manual Control Dimming (pressing the Dimmer?s rocker)
    ? Parameter 9 (number of steps or levels)
    ? Parameter 10 (timing of the steps)
    ? Length: 1 Byte
    ? Valid Values:
    Parameter 9 (default = 1) Valid Values: 1-99
    Parameter 10 (default = 3) Valid Values: 1-255[/quote]

Thanks. I’d found that and was going to try that when I got home from work. Admittedly, there’s a possibility I missed it in the instructions so I’ll give them another look but it was just a single large foldout page of mostly pictures.

As I thought, the instruction page didn’t contain anything about config settings. The older switch ones for manual control did work though. I’d expect the z-wave command ones would as well.

Great! Thanks for reporting back.

I happen to have the 45712 manual in my briefcase, and I can confirm the settings are exactly what Z-Waver posted…
The last page of the manual before the warranty…

In case anyone is interested, this is these are the ones I’m using. They’re great when you’re not looking to do your entire house but can’t use decora switches because you have gang boxes. I’m loving them.

Reading through many forums regarding setting the ramp rates for the GE switches, I read many people complain that the ramp rate can not be set. In reality what I find is that most are making one simple mistake and improperly setting the value of variable 7. IMPORTANT Variable 7 sets the number of steps. The default value from the factory is “1”. This gives the most steps and granular control. The documentation seems to give the indication of the opposite, that a larger number gives more steps. This is why so many people end up with instant off-on ramping.

For ramping to work, really it is only important to adjust Variable 8 for Z-Wave and 10 for Local. Hope that helps!

Does anyone know if there is a way to make the manual toggle control of the dimmer automatically turn the light off when turning off and not go through the dimmer feature? It would be nice to ‘dim’ when turning on, but when turning off have it go straight to off…

Hi all

I adjusted variable 80 from 0x3 to 0x20 and can definitely see a difference in the ramp down time. However it doesn’t impact the ramp up time, no matter what I set the switch seems to turn the lights on immediately. The lights on the switch are an incandescent floodlight and an LED type a bulb. The unit is the 12729 from GE.

Is the unit perhaps defective that the ramp up date isn’t working but the ramp down is working or perhaps there’s a different variable for ramp up?
Thanks

Hi all

I adjusted variable 80 from 0x3 to 0x20 and can definitely see a difference in the ramp down time. However it doesn’t impact the ramp up time, no matter what I set the switch seems to turn the lights on immediately. The lights on the switch are an incandescent floodlight and an LED type a bulb. The unit is the 12729 from GE.

Is the unit perhaps defective that the ramp up date isn’t working but the ramp down is working or perhaps there’s a different variable for ramp up?
Thanks[/quote]

There is not different for up and down. I think this was found to be a problem with the command vera is sending for turning it on. Does this switch ramp up the same with both vera turning it on and using the physical switch it self or is your problem on when vera turns it on?

If it’s only with vera turns it on I think it was a problem with the way it’s paired and I would have to search but it might be the switch firmware or build number. You might just swap it out for another if you can.

Hi all

I adjusted variable 80 from 0x3 to 0x20 and can definitely see a difference in the ramp down time. However it doesn’t impact the ramp up time, no matter what I set the switch seems to turn the lights on immediately. The lights on the switch are an incandescent floodlight and an LED type a bulb. The unit is the 12729 from GE.

Is the unit perhaps defective that the ramp up date isn’t working but the ramp down is working or perhaps there’s a different variable for ramp up?
Thanks[/quote]

There is not different for up and down. I think this was found to be a problem with the command vera is sending for turning it on. Does this switch ramp up the same with both vera turning it on and using the physical switch it self or is your problem on when vera turns it on?

If it’s only with vera turns it on I think it was a problem with the way it’s paired and I would have to search but it might be the switch firmware or build number. You might just swap it out for another if you can. [/quote]

I have come to the conclusion that these are pure junk. They are unreliable…it’s the only device on the network that doesn’t work reliably and it’s not even far away from the controller, the ramp rate doesn’t work when turning on, the init itself won’t accept a full length faceplate screw either.

I’ve tried three of them. They are junk…or at least they don’t work with Vera reliably and have other quality issues.

[quote=“mikoz, post:12, topic:186390”]I have come to the conclusion that these are pure junk. They are unreliable…it’s the only device on the network that doesn’t work reliably and it’s not even far away from the controller, the ramp rate doesn’t work when turning on, the init itself won’t accept a full length faceplate screw either.

I’ve tried three of them. They are junk…or at least they don’t work with Vera reliably and have other quality issues.[/quote]

Sorry to hear that, I have a bunch of GE switches as do many of us (since you can get them at LOWES) without any issues.

EDIT: I only have rocket style switches, I’m not sure if your experience with other GE’s are different or you just ment GE in general? I do not or haven not tried their toggle switch.