Evolve Light switch instant update status in Vera

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Hi, I was playing with my evolve light switch trying to associate a few of them together, but found something very interresting.

On every switch, if I tap once on ON or OFF, the status doesnt change in Vera until the next poll, but if I double tap ON or OFF, the status change at the same time in Vera! So that way, I was able to use the switch like normal with one tap and for exemple if I double tap the entrance door light OFF, my go away scene activate (put my alarm on, turn every light off, close the blinds)

Does anybody else do this?

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Just to add that the only thing I did to enable this was to set every switch together in a group ID 2 in one switch. After that, when I double tap ON or OFF, I can trigger a scene.

I add a scene to start my sonos when I double tap OFF my bedroom light between 10pm and midnight to Play 30 minutes of soft music in my bedroom sonos.

You only create a scene like normal in Vera and set the trigger to lunch the scene at the double tap on ON or OFF.

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I have done extensive testing on the Linear switches (Linear makes the Evolves) regarding the group and multi-tapping that their manual suggests that they are capable of. Have never been successful in doing it. although I never tried this on an Evolve switch.

Do you mean to say that you grouped two or more evolve switches together in Vera as group ID 2 and that allows you to use a double tap on the switch to execute a scene? How did you setup the scene in Vera to trigger at a double tap of the switch? Did you setup an association within Vera or a group?

I am excited to hear that it seems like you got this double tap to work, please send us more info. I will need to check this AND your instant status comments further, good job and thanks for posting this!

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Hi,

This is what I have donc :

I configure in one of the switch in the device option tab, a group ID 1 and with the set button, I select all my other switch.

Then I did the same thing again by creating a new group with ID 2 and select all my switch again.

Then I went into settings and change the configuration to NO Instead of default behavior. Then click the configure button at the bottom of the box.

Click save and reload.

Then just go configure a scene and use the trigger with any lamp you want and select turn on or OFF for the trigger.

That it.

Just save and reload. Then when you gonna double click the switch. Vera update the switch status at the same moment and the scene fire.

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@haworld - He is not successful in using associations. He is getting a pseudo status update because he is activating the include command with the double tap AND the switch communicates directly with Vera(not routed). The GE switches exhibit a similar behavior.

It is not instant status and it is not an association. :frowning:

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But at least you can fire scene with a evolve switch by double tap even if it not a real instant status

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@z-waver - ahh ok I see, was getting excited there for a minute lol.

@peterluc8080 - if you do that and a scene is triggered, wouldn’t you also be including or excluding that device each time then as well? There isn’t any routing, like zwaver said, so you would have to re-include each time I would think because you are also excluding it each time as well. Or every second time, alternating.

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@haworld

No, the device remain in Vera and are not exclude or include each time. If I double tap ON or OFF. I can see the status change in Vera and can change the light after within Vera with no problem. Just try it on your own and you will see what I mean lol

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[quote=“haworld, post:7, topic:180809”]@z-waver - ahh ok I see, was getting excited there for a minute lol.

@peterluc8080 - if you do that and a scene is triggered, wouldn’t you also be including or excluding that device each time then as well? There isn’t any routing, like zwaver said, so you would have to re-include each time I would think because you are also excluding it each time as well. Or every second time, alternating.[/quote]
When the Evlove switch is double tapped, it goes into learn mode and issues/broadcasts a Node Information Frame(NIF) which Vera sees and is interpreting as a pseudo status update, since Vera is not in Include/Exclude mode. Since Vera is not in include mode and does not reply to the device’s NIF with learning instructions(homeID etc.) to initiate the include/exclude process, the Evlove device’s network status does not change and it times out of learning mode after a few seconds.

If a nearby controller was in exclude mode, the Evolve switch would exclude upon double tap and broadcast of the NIF. But, since the Evolve switch sends the NIF and no controllers respond it stays in the network. As I said, GE switches and likely others behave in a very similar fashion.

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I knew it was too good to be true.

If somehow by chance someone managed to make the groups work, I would expect
to see it happen on the Linear and not the Evolve because AFAIK the multi tap-function was only advertised on the Linear. My Evolve lit does not describe multiple groups but it does in Linear.

Not that it really matters. It doesn’t work.

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