DSC PC1832, PC1832NK or PC1864NK

I’m hoping for a little help from someone that understands the differences in the DSC panels.
I am going to replace a 10 year old HAI Omni LT panel with something more modern that I can blend with Vera Lite. I want to be able to make use of the existing motions and door switches that are all over the house for security, as well as use those zones to trigger some scenes that will replace some automation that I have happening now with the Omni panel. I will be using it to close garage doors, outside lighting from motion sensors, etc. I want to do the best I can to limit my expense, and I have found pretty good pricing on the DSC PC1832 at $60.00, the PC1832NK at $68.00 and the PC1864NK (obviously capable of more zones) at $100.00.
Can someone tell me if there is an advantage to the PC1832NK that justifies the $8.00, and more importantly the $40.00 difference to go to the PC1864NK. I know that they can all be expanded in the future, just want to make sure that I don’t buy something only to realize that they all play really nicely with Vera “BUT” everbody knows that you don’t buy the [insert model number of the panel that everybody knows won’t [insert desirable feature here]…].
Is there any option for programming software without being a licensed installer? I actually worked as an security tech 20 or so years ago, so I can get the programming done, especially with software.
Is it necessary to have a keypad with the system to get started? I know that it is logical from the Security standpoint, but I intend to use it for Automation only at this point, and will probably go towards using an iPad or similar interface in the future, so I don’t want to throw $100 or so of my budget at a keypad if I don’t have to.
Thanks in advance for any responses.
BTW, I have a bunch of Omni devices for sale if anyone is interested, voice module, keypad, Omni Lt panel, expander board, temp sensor, speaker/microphone, etc…cheap :slight_smile:

Good question, I’m starting to plan for my install and I have this same question in mind. Would love to use my iPad as the console and program everything using DSC’s software.

I can’t speak a great deal as to the functionality between the DSC control panel and the Vera as I’m really only just breaking the ice on that myself, but I can speak to the differences between the 1832 and 1864.

First, the PC1832 isn’t really a part number from any of the suppliers that I work with, but I’m going to guess that what you’re looking at is the same as the PC1832PCB, which is just the panel motherboard by itself. The PC1832NK includes the motherboard and a metal cabinet enclosure that you can mount to the wall. So the $8 difference is probably for the can. NK stands for ‘no kit.’ I think there are some packages that include a transformer and maybe a couple of devices (contacts, motion detectors), but I’ve never purchased any so that’s just a guess.

As for the 1832 vs. 1864 I’ll just make a quick list of the differences:
32 zones vs. 64 zones (maximum - expanders are required for either board after the first 8 )
2 PGM outputs vs. 4 PGM outputs
4 partitions vs. 8 partitions
72 user codes vs. 95 user codes

Really the two big ones there are the maximum number of zones and the programmable outputs. The outputs, in case you aren’t familiar, supply 12VDC and can be programmed to activate on a number of different conditions (following a zone state, or the armed state of the system, etc.). I highly doubt you’ll need the extra 4 partitions or 23 user codes, but the zones and outputs are your call. Like zones, you can add more outputs with an expander module later if you find a use for them.

As for programming, you can download the DLS 5 programming software from DSC’s website. I don’t think you need to be registered with them to get it. However, you will need a PC-LINK SCW to connect the panel to your PC.

Lastly, do you NEED to have a keypad on your system? Technically, no. It will operate without one, but at the end of the day a keypad is your absolute fallback/failsafe way of interacting with the system. If your Vera bugs out and loses all of its programming, or if your network is down, or who the heck knows what else, the keypad can be used to silence/disarm/program the system, or even give some indication as to whether Vera is communicating with the alarm panel. It’d kinda be like replacing all the locks on your house with electronic deadbolts and throwing away the physical keys. Sooner or later, that’s probably gonna bite you.

@Happydude
Great first post!

^^^^^^^^^^^
“What he Said” :slight_smile:

You will need a keypad for programming, even if you use the software. If you are just controlling the zones, you just have to program about three (3) locations: 001, 013, and 380 (turn off “1” - that is communication for alarm monitoring).

I think you can get away without a keypad. What’s your rational?