Combination switch under UI7

The combination switch don’t seems to work properly under UI7…

I can install it, but I have an error message “Config: failed to find config data”

After, when I try to configure a corresponding device, I have the message “failed to get plugins” and I can’t configure it…

Is it a known issue ? I tried to uninstall and reinstall the application but it’s the same behaviour!

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Your question is a bit off topic for the Program Logic plugins subforum (actually, spectacularly off topic), but I stumbled across it by accident.

I am using the Combination Switch on my UI7 Vera without incident. If you are getting an error message then there is something about your environment which is causing the error. Let’s try to identify it.

Are you on the same LAN as your Vera when you go to configure the Combination Switch?

What devices have you got? Classify them according to the device type: Binary switches, thermostats, etc. Don’t forget to include devices that other plugins create.

What version of the Combination Switch plugin are you using?

What browser are you using?

What UI7 firmware are you on?

What Vera hardware are you on?

Thanks for your answer futzle but I went back to UI5… My experience with UI7 was not very successful., and for now, I prefer to stay with my old shoes :wink:

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[quote=“futzle, post:2, topic:185430”]Your question is a bit off topic for the Program Logic plugins subforum (actually, spectacularly off topic), but I stumbled across it by accident.

I am using the Combination Switch on my UI7 Vera without incident. If you are getting an error message then there is something about your environment which is causing the error. Let’s try to identify it.

Are you on the same LAN as your Vera when you go to configure the Combination Switch?

What devices have you got? Classify them according to the device type: Binary switches, thermostats, etc. Don’t forget to include devices that other plugins create.

What version of the Combination Switch plugin are you using?

What browser are you using?

What UI7 firmware are you on?

What Vera hardware are you on?[/quote]
I am running UI.7.513
The plugin works if you use ver 19.0 but to program the “Combination switch” I have to be hooked up direct to my Vera 3 by using 192.xxx.81.1 Now remember you don’t need to “login” to use and see most eveerything in your Vera, If you try to use Energy or User Info then you will be asked to login by “getvera.com” and you will not be able to see the plugin configuration,and they configure the plugin. When I login using "getvera.com and you try to view the configuration you will get "failed to find plugin. Now the people at MCV are aware of this but no solution because not everyone has the same problem. So until there is a fix try getting into your Vera directly.

I can confirm that when I accessed my UI7 vera via localhost, I was able to configure the combination switches.

Any plugin that uses Ajax to configure itself has this issue. This isn’t as much a Vera issue as the plugins not dealing with cross site scripting rules for Ajax calls to external web sources. This is typically only used for the configuration since it provides a way to make the configuration of the plugin robust and responsive. After you have configured the devices under control then you can access them remotely.

I have two plugins that I wrote that have this issue and haven’t gotten around to working through a solution since it only affects configuration.

I programmed a switch under UI5 and I remember it being easy. I have upgraded to UI7, updated the plugin, and now I cannot make heads or tails out of creating a new switch… I have spent days and hours on this searching the forums, and not one post helps me.

I must be getting old or something… I guess I need an actual real world configuration “how to” document that has PICTURES and ARROWS.
you can’t drop down a list of devices anymore. You can’t choose the desired state to watch for from a drop down list…

I am at my wits end… I need to understand how UI7 works and this “New Service” tab is not doing it for me… not intuitive, no explanation, no visible logic, no “how to” is discoverable in forums that helps a newbie, nothing… ( And I am not a newbie to UI5 )

Please help me understand this so I don’t have to pull out and destroy my entire home automation system… If I cannot control it, it is worthless. I have thousands invested, and I will burn it if this trash interface is not explained to me soon. Vera was my one hope for a masterful solution, and now it is junk if I can’t get real support.

If you ask me, I think it is time for VERA to provide a paid support model. I would pay to get my answers on demand in real time.

To create a new Switch (or any new Plugin)

  1. Goto the Apps Tap (On the Left)
  2. Select “My Apps”
  3. Find the “Combination Switch” (or any other Plugin you want to create a new device for)
  4. Click “Details” on the right
  5. Click “Create Another” button.

Let Vera Restart … refresh your browser (F5)
You should be good to go.

Hi Richard, and thanks for the reply but I am pretty sure you already knew that any idiot can do that much… You see I am a very special type of idiot that cannot figure out how to make that new logical object DO anything.

So, if you can say that you have experience in programming the functions behind that object in UI7, and your willing to help, then we can continue to post back and forth until I can get past that part of creating a function behind the object you and I created.

If you have never done that in UI7, I thank you for the quick response, but I ask that we wait for somebody that has done this in UI7. Yes, it might not be different, but if my memory serves me, it is different. Not that my memory is all that great these days.

[quote=“sommervi, post:7, topic:185430”]I guess I need an actual real world configuration “how to” document that has PICTURES and ARROWS.
you can’t drop down a list of devices anymore. You can’t choose the desired state to watch for from a drop down list…[/quote]

(You can scarcely blame Richard for chiming in. You have inexplicably posted your comment in the Program Logic Plugins subforum, and Richard is the author of that plugin. Perhaps you meant to post to this topic: http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,10995.375.html)

Pictures you can have for free. Arrows require a paid subscription.

I reached the page shown in the attached screenshot by clicking on the Settings arrow (>) for the Combination Switch, and then pressing the word “Configure”. Is that not what you see? If you are seeing “New Service” then you are on the Advanced tab and you should go Back one level and find the Configure tab.

The link I gave above includes is about the start of the UI7 discussion. There’s some important stuff in there, including caveats about the missing SAVE button and how you have to do configuration on the LAN rather than remotely.

I got some decent sleep last night, so now maybe I won’t sound like a maniac…
My apologies to Richard. I have been under a great deal of stress on my job and working a huge number of hours, then trying to make sense of this. I did not realize he was the dev for this plugin.

Thank you for replying with a picture…

OK so I do NOT see what you shown me in the attached picture…
I in fact see different things depending on which type of Web browser I use… I have IE 11 and Chrome… Maybe this UI7 does not like either one of those… I am running latest UI7 on a Vera3 and the latest plugin version as I just loaded it. I loaded the core first, then the Generator. I had to do it 2 times as it failed the first time. I literally did a full soft reboot of the controller before it loaded without an error.

Before I go on, you mentioned something about a paid subscription? If that is no joke, tell me where to sign up… Really…

To show what I see, I am going to go one screen at a time, and in 2 threads, one for Chrome, one for IE 11. Neither one shows me what you have shown me.

Attached are 4 pictures, 2 for each browser. One shows what the new Logic Generator device looks like in the devices list, the next picture shows what the page looks like after I click the arrow from the devices display. Neither display has a “Configure”… item in the settings dialog…

I now see something I did not see before re-installed the plugin… I can see a dialog to add devices in the “inputs” under settings. There is no “configure” dialog, but this looks like something that makes sense now.

It is different than what you showed me though… But at least it is not empty like before… I also can only see this in IE 11 and I have also got that showing up in FireFox. Chrome is not compatible.

I will see where this leads me… I am now in learning mode as I actually see objects that can be used to build the logic.

I have successfully configured my first simple PLEG.
I have to say thanks for the patience I have been shown.

I can now proceed with building code on my old V3 and new Edge as I migrate to it.
I am a bit confused as to the “Configure” not being in settings, but I can only assume it is what it looked like in UI5.
I see dialogs now after re-installing the PLEG after a soft reboot of the Vera3(not a reload, a reboot).
Now the instructions for PLEG and the posts in the forum for PLEG at least make a little sense now… I have to do a bit of UI7 translating but I can see where that goes now.

You are mixing up two different plugins …

The topic is “Combination Switch” in UI7.
This topic is opened in the PLEG thread.

The pictures you are showing are for PLEG.

Please open a ticket with the correct topic in the correct board so we can figure out what help you need.

Correct, I was on the wrong forum. I had issue with both plugins. For combination switch, the direction to close the dialog and save did not work, until it did. I have no idea why it did not before, not why it finally did. I have only successfully configured one combination switch.
I hope there is a change coming that puts a save button on the current window that the changes are being made so as to be more consistent with the standard interface convention.