Can you Associate lights to smoke alarms?

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All,

I had the idea earlier to associate my light switches to the smoke alarms but I have no idea if that would work and the testing seems like it could be …unpleasant. And with a low spousal approval factor.

Ideally, I would have both smoke alarms trigger all the lights but I could settle for having the bedroom lights triggered by the upstairs smoke alarm.

Has anyone done this?

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I thought exactly the same thing when I noticed the Fibaro switches/relays have an in-built alarm mode - if you send an alarm condition to them they automatically flash their loads for 10 minutes (the duration and rate of flash can be configured).

So if you have those, or something similar, you could associate your smoke alarm with those and you would automatically have the relevant lights start flashing.

Definitely one of my next phases of HA.

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You need to work the other way around, find a smoke alarm that supports more than Group 1 Association (LifeLineGroup), then use some smoke, mirrors and magic plus a sprinkling of pixi dust to associate it with the Fibario.

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Don’t assume group 1 is lifeline only. Many devices use group 1 for up to 5 normal device associations. Depends on the device. Many support different groups for different functionality. Best bet is to read the manual of the device on line before you buy.

Other thing to watch, new z+ devices generally cannot control older non z+ devices through association unless the z+ is added in unsecure mode or they support parameters to talk unsecure (Fibaros for example support this)

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I am going to be tying the smokes in the house to the burg panel, burg panel to vera, and do something similar with the lighting. I already have certain states in the house that will throw lights on and they work well. I am also going to have the CO detectors in the garage set to open the garage door and notify me, trigger 100% recording on the cameras too.

If the WAF is high on that stuff, the next phase will be red LEDs on top of the door frames to turn on when the house goes into burg alarm state. Can you imagine breaking in somewhere… the alarm starts beeping, then the sirens go off, the whole main portion of the house turns red, maybe a set of Sonos (or similar) speakers offering up some friendly voices of reason about releasing the dogs and deploying anti-personnel gas?

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Oh man, you gotta “flash” those red led bars and have Star Trek klaxon sirens going off :slight_smile:

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My rationale for doing a direct association is that with the vera firmware crapshoot, I don’t entirely trust my unit anymore. Reboots are way too common for my happiness.

Direct association is independent of vera, once established, so I feel more confident it would work.

Plus I already have the scenes to turn the lights on for an alarm, this is the backup plan.
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[quote=“kigmatzomat, post:7, topic:198703”]My rationale for doing a direct association is that with the vera firmware crapshoot, I don’t entirely trust my unit anymore. Reboots are way too common for my happiness.

Direct association is independent of vera, once established, so I feel more confident it would work.

Plus I already have the scenes to turn the lights on for an alarm, this is the backup plan.
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This is why i have only had 4 firmwares in my V3 since purchasing it back when it was the new powerhouse of the MCV line. I’m over a year out of date, but man it is rock solid.

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Yeah, I was there with my Plus, but I started getting phantom devices that won’t uninstall and my Plus has begun resetting luup a dozen times a day.

I am very close to getting my v3 out, upgrading it to ui7, setting it up as a secondary controller and migrating all the devices over. Then I can upgrade the plus with less risk. Probably. I think.