How do I connect them ? Do I just plug in the new Vera and them scan for UPnP services or do I need to setup the new box first. I am considering
a power line device to get the LAN to the new Vera so do I plug it into the local LAN switch or the other Vera. I presume I need to at least setup a new static address in the second Vera but do I need to login the new unit into Mios or anything like that ?
IT’S A GOOD OVER VIEW OF THE CHANGE ONCE EVERYTHING IS PLUGGED IN BUT IT DOSENT TELL ME HOW TO CONNECT OR IF I NEED TO CHANGE HOW THE 2ND DEVICE IS CONFIGURED NETWORK WISE. ALSO SHOULD I USE THE SAME BETA VERSION AS I AM CURRENTLY RUN IN VERA2. ANY INFO ON THIS ASPECT ?
I hope you accidentally hit the cap lock button by mistake. You will need to have both vera’s on the same network. Once they are on the same network, on the main vera unit that you want to have control over the second vera unit. Follow the procedure in the wiki link I provided you:
Choose Add Device and Add control over another UPnP device, such as another MiOS. If the option for UPNP Scanning is not checked, you must check it first, then save your settings, and wait a few minutes before adding the other device. Whichever system you are using to select the Add Device will be the 'master', and whichever system you add to it is the slave.
Once that is done, your main vera unit will start to add the devices of the slave (second) vera unit. When you want to add a new device to the slave (second) vera unit, you will need to access the slave (second) unit to perform the inclusion or exclusion of a device or any other z-wave related actions (for example performing a heal).
- Garrett
The bit on network configuration is on that page as well:
They both have separate Z-Wave networks. But, assuming they are on the same home LAN, the main system can import the devices of the guest system, so that the whole home appears to be one big systemSo, is that what you are attempting to do? Are you going to have any other Z-Wave devices included into the new Vera's network?
What I want do do is just repeat the siginal so the far away devices get a more relible signal. I have another vera which I use as a boot device on a seprate Mios account pluged into the same router to get internet access. Will it be afected when I bridge the new Vera? Efectivley I have 3 Vera units but 2 will be bridged.
So I am guessing the Mios network doesent actually see the second unit? It just runs wholly within the LAN dong the same thing as the first one?
Here is an example of what bridging vera units does:
Say you have one vera unit on the first floor and all of the z-wave devices on that floor are paired to that Vera. You than have a second vera unit on the second floor and all of the zwave devices on that floor are paired to that unit. On the first vera, you can have the second floor vera bridge to the first floor unit allowing the first floor vera unit to see all of the second floor vera devices. However the second floor vera will not show all of the first floor vera devices. You can than access the first floor vera and have access to both the first and second floor.
- Garrett
so does that mean I need to pair the devices that are not working somtimes to the new unit. All my devices are paired so I thought I could just let the new vera copy the old one and nothing else needs to be done. I was hoping I could set and forget the second vera
I see. You’d have to split your Z-Wave network into the ‘far away devices’ on Vera #1, and the ‘near devices’ on Vera #2. Then bridge one Vera to the other, and use the Vera you imported to for controlling your devices (with the exception mentioned by @garrettwp that relate to the management of the Z-Wave network itself).
O Ok so I guess I have to exclude the dogy devices from one unit then include into the other? The main thing is once I split I can control from the original unit both vera’s is that correct ? In the network setup in vera what am I selecting if I use a cat 6 connection? I only see wifi brige mentioned?
I did this exact same thing. I have one Vera and a large network with spotty coverage. I broke it into three networks and made sure I placed each vera in a central (relative to the devices) location. Then I bridged them together so that if I log into one Vera it shows all devices even if they are on another Vera’s zwave network. The bridging is an IP thing not a zwave thing. This works quite well. The only thing to note is that if you are assigning scenes to an in wall controller then the scene must be built on the Vera that has that controller.
I use bridging to connect multiple Vera’s in rental cabins together so I only need to be logged onto the master Vera to control all remote Vera’s. If you are hard wiring them together like I did with Ethernet cables make sure either your static IP address or your DHCP service is NOT using the IP address range 192.168.81.xxx on any of the Vera’s as all hell will break loose. UPnP stops working between Vera’s, this caused me months of trouble shooting.
I just attempted to include a older Vera2 with UI5 into my Vera3 running UI5 and I can’t see it in the UPnP list. My Servers, Routers, cams and my Roku player shows up, but no Vera2. I have both of them in WIFI client mode, one using .243, one .246
Does this only work on wired connections? Maybe it’s something to do with both on Wifi Client mode…I’ll mess around more but if you have any suggestions that would be great
thanks
I was having the same problem you are having when I was using the Vera 3 as my router, my Vera lite would not show up in the upnp list. Multiple calls to tech support and still would not work. Finally just used a normal router configured to 192.168.1.1, left Vera 3 and Vera lite in the default network mode, turned off router and dhcp server on Vera 3 and then it worked great. I would not recommend using the Vera 3 as a router.
I left it for a few hours and rebooted my main router. It worked eventually and I think it was something wierd with UPnP data and or caching of the UPnP network…
In any case, bridging works and my network is faster and better than ever before and MUCH more reliable.