ALTUI : New Features Suggestions

can you both use MISC DEBUG 'one device variable" and dump the device variable respectively ? with the slider in position 50%
that ll help to understand the potential difference. thx a lot !

[quote=“amg0, post:261, topic:188330”]can you both use MISC DEBUG 'one device variable" and dump the device variable respectively ? with the slider in position 50%
that ll help to understand the potential difference. thx a lot ![/quote]

I went to do what you asked, and for whatever reason it looks like it’s properly scaling the power display now. Perhaps a new browser window was needed or something.
-T

Suggestion: separate user data files
 One for the location and user details
 One for devices and one for automation

Or keep it as one but somehow allow
 #include or #require to add another file with more data

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[quote=“konradwalsh, post:263, topic:188330”]Suggestion: separate user data files
 One for the location and user details
 One for devices and one for automation

Or keep it as one but somehow allow
 #include or #require to add another file with more data

Sent from my ONE A2003 using Tapatalk[/quote]

I am not sure what file you refer to. ALTUI makes no use at all of any files on your vera.

[quote=“amg0”][quote=“konradwalsh, post:263, topic:188330”]Suggestion: separate user data files
 One for the location and user details
 One for devices and one for automation

Or keep it as one but somehow allow
 #include or #require to add another file with more data

Sent from my ONE A2003 using Tapatalk[/quote]

I am not sure what file you refer to. ALTUI makes no use at all of any files on your vera.[/quote]
My apologies
 I should have posted this in the openluup forum
I was referring to the user data file

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[quote=“konradwalsh, post:265, topic:188330”][quote=“amg0”][quote=“konradwalsh, post:263, topic:188330”]Suggestion: separate user data files
 One for the location and user details
 One for devices and one for automation

Or keep it as one but somehow allow
 #include or #require to add another file with more data

Sent from my ONE A2003 using Tapatalk[/quote]

I am not sure what file you refer to. ALTUI makes no use at all of any files on your vera.[/quote]
My apologies
 I should have posted this openluup
I was referring to the user data file

Sent from my ONE A2003 using Tapatalk[/quote]

ok. so agreed, openLuup stores the user_data data structure in a file. now by design ALTUI makes no use of any file on VERA for key reasons ( benefit of automatic built in vera backup every day, ability to restore etc ) and I want to keep it like that. so the consequence is that data structures that ALTUI needs are stored in device variables and that makes things a bit awkward for user pages and workflows for instance. but normally not a source of concern. I am looking at a way to reduce the footprint with some compression but I want to stick to the “no file on VERA file system” design rule as long as I can.

[quote=“amg0”][quote=“konradwalsh, post:265, topic:188330”][quote=“amg0”][quote=“konradwalsh, post:263, topic:188330”]Suggestion: separate user data files
 One for the location and user details
 One for devices and one for automation

Or keep it as one but somehow allow
 #include or #require to add another file with more data

Sent from my ONE A2003 using Tapatalk[/quote]

I am not sure what file you refer to. ALTUI makes no use at all of any files on your vera.[/quote]
My apologies
 I should have posted this openluup
I was referring to the user data file

Sent from my ONE A2003 using Tapatalk[/quote]

ok. so agreed, openLuup stores the user_data data structure in a file. now by design ALTUI makes no use of any file on VERA for key reasons ( benefit of automatic built in vera backup every day, ability to restore etc ) and I want to keep it like that. so the consequence is that data structures that ALTUI needs are stored in device variables and that makes things a bit awkward for user pages and workflows for instance. but normally not a source of concern. I am looking at a way to reduce the footprint with some compression but I want to stick to the “no file on VERA file system” design rule as long as I can.[/quote]
Yes that makes sense.
I guess I’m thinking about what happened today. It would have much easier to quickly disable the workflow data to see where the issues were
 I think it will make debugging easier

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I think it would be useful to allow workflows use the status of other workflows as trigger variables for transitions.
For example, I would like to create a workflow to check if I have strong sun in a certain room, and then use its status to perform several actions

Thanks!

that is possible but is an advanced use case.

ALTUI device has an action called “TriggerTransition” / service “urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1” with 2 parameters:
workflowAltuiid : which is a workflow altuiid with the form “0-xxx”
transitionId : which is ID of a transition

I am attaching screen shot where you can find this information.

calling this Action in one of your workflow OnEnter or OnExit actions will actually trigger that particular transition in that other workflow you specify

to be honest, I have not tested, but it should work.

Please see the attached screen shot. It would be nice if I could specify the minimum and maximum value for each scale since negative values are currently off the scale.

[quote=“BrianLBeaton, post:270, topic:188330”]Please see the attached screen shot. It would be nice if I could specify the minimum and maximum value for each scale since negative values are currently off the scale.[/quote]+1. Ideally same scale parameters as Google gauge available in the custome pages would be great

Next version will have auto adaptation of min/max values. regarding managing this as parameters/preferences, I d like to avoid that, as it becomes too much a duplication of the custom pages.
Maybe I should get rid of google gage and replace with this one ? any opinions ?

the latest updates are great!

SUGGESTION:
Can you store the emoncms read/write key so that it prepopulates?
And put hints beside the boxes that need entries
 the hints would just remind you what you need to put there


[quote=“konradwalsh, post:273, topic:188330”]the latest updates are great!

SUGGESTION:
Can you store the emoncms read/write key so that it prepopulates?
And put hints beside the boxes that need entries
 the hints would just remind you what you need to put there
[/quote]
thx !

where ? which box ? ( screen snapshot would help to understand precisely )

See screenie


Mostly it would be helpful to not have to repopulate the read/write key everytime


[quote=“amg0, post:269, topic:188330”]that is possible but is an advanced use case.

ALTUI device has an action called “TriggerTransition” / service “urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1” with 2 parameters:
workflowAltuiid : which is a workflow altuiid with the form “0-xxx”
transitionId : which is ID of a transition

I am attaching screen shot where you can find this information.

calling this Action in one of your workflow OnEnter or OnExit actions will actually trigger that particular transition in that other workflow you specify

to be honest, I have not tested, but it should work.[/quote]

This is tricky indeed :wink:
What I was referring to is somehow abusing the workflows mechanism instead of virtual switch or combination switch:
The logic in combination switch is somehow limited, and I was thinking to implement the logic I need in a workflow and have its state as a result, hence avoiding extra device to save the state.

If I would use your suggestion, the logic will have to know of every other workflow that uses it, and it is somehow complicated.

[quote=“marksand, post:276, topic:188330”][quote=“amg0, post:269, topic:188330”]that is possible but is an advanced use case.

ALTUI device has an action called “TriggerTransition” / service “urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1” with 2 parameters:
workflowAltuiid : which is a workflow altuiid with the form “0-xxx”
transitionId : which is ID of a transition

I am attaching screen shot where you can find this information.

calling this Action in one of your workflow OnEnter or OnExit actions will actually trigger that particular transition in that other workflow you specify

to be honest, I have not tested, but it should work.[/quote]

This is tricky indeed :wink:
What I was referring to is somehow abusing the workflows mechanism instead of virtual switch or combination switch:
The logic in combination switch is somehow limited, and I was thinking to implement the logic I need in a workflow and have its state as a result, hence avoiding extra device to save the state.

If I would use your suggestion, the logic will have to know of every other workflow that uses it, and it is somehow complicated.[/quote]
understood
then maybe , what prevent the workflow A to update the virtual switch and a workflow B to use virtual switch variables as a trigger for some transitions then ? then you decouple workflow A and B which do not have to know each other, only thing they share is a virtual switch ID & variable name.

alternative could be to have “globals” in variable Bag but I wanted to avoid going to that extend for now ( technically easy to do ) then it starts to become a bit like developping code again


Rooms page could include a column for scenes, as well as the devices?

Hi !

Re-ordering favorite tiles is a great feature. However, on my smarthphone (android 5.0, firefox, 4’ display), scrolling the page often results in unwanted drag and drop/re-ordering of the tiles. I ended up switching on the siren instead of disabling my alarm mode a couple of times already.

Could it be possible to add an option / button to lock positions ?

Not a big deal of course. Whatever the answer, thanks a lot for ALTUI, most useful vera plugin ever !!

[quote=“xben007, post:279, topic:188330”]Hi !

Re-ordering favorite tiles is a great feature. However, on my smarthphone (android 5.0, firefox, 4’ display), scrolling the page often results in unwanted drag and drop/re-ordering of the tiles. I ended up switching on the siren instead of disabling my alarm mode a couple of times already.

Could it be possible to add an option / button to lock positions ?

Not a big deal of course. Whatever the answer, thanks a lot for ALTUI, most useful vera plugin ever !![/quote]
in next release