Perfect. $5.00 more and get energy reporting, makes sense.
Just for some feedback on your website (and I know you’ve just pasted in the Aeon press release blurb) . . .
Fairly sure your ‘NO energy reporting’ versions include in the description “It can also report immediate wattage consumption or kWh energy usage over a period of time.”, which is confusing under the circumstances. Maybe I’m missing something (or dumb), but FYI in the event this might cause folks to buy the wrong item or expect something different as to functionality.
Many thanks – 3x of the first one on the list about to be ordered from you guys.
Out of curiosity, did your first batch actually show? I expect you’re out of stock now, but knowing that someone in the US has actually seen one would make me sleep a bit better : -),
Sorry to add to all the questions, but does anyone know if these support the secure protocols and beaming used by locks? I’m hoping I can use them as repeaters. Ordered mine on 5/22, received an email that day stating they would ship in 7-10 business days.
I don’t have this device, but it appears they come with Z-Wave version 2.78 (or better), which supports beaming. (You could post the [tt]Version[/tt] string from the device’s [tt]Settings[/tt] tab to confirm the Z-Wave version).
Just so you guys know. If you buy an Aeon Micro Module from Asihome and it comes defective, you have to pay the return shipping. I think this should be clear. I would suggest waiting for other vendors with better policies towards returns for defective items especially for this product which is pretty new and for the most part untested in the market. I will post this in the other forums as well so that word gets out.
It is pretty common to see places make you charge for return shipping back to have an item replaced. A company is not obligated to pay for shipping of a defective item. ASIHome is not a huge company like Amazon, etc that can afford to pay for return shipping for all of their products.
[quote=“garrettwp, post:89, topic:167447”]It is pretty common to see places make you charge for return shipping back to have an item replaced. A company is not obligated to pay for shipping of a defective item. ASIHome is not a huge company like Amazon, etc that can afford to pay for return shipping for all of their products.
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I’m not saying I don’t feel bad for them. I’m just saying put that up front. There is nowhere in their documentation that if you buy an Aeon lab micro module and it is defective then you are going to have to pay return shipping. In my opinion (and I don’t give a F@#$@ how big they are or where they get the products), if they send you a defective product you shouldn’t be charged to send it back. That’s just common sense and bad business otherwise.
I do not disagree with you and feel that should be the case. I also feel that the retailer should be reimbursed by the manufacture for return shipping of the defective product. But a lot of companies make you pay for return shipping. Just to give you a heads up, they do state that return shipping is the customers responsibility. It is stated in there shipping and return page.
If you buy a defective surround sound receiver from a big box store on the highway are you telling me the come and pick it up from your house or is it YOUR responsibility to bring it back to the store? How about realizing you purchased expired food from the grocery store does the A&P dispatch someone to collect it from you?
YES huge mail order / web stores do offer postage free returns. The volume of their business makes it affordable and often a desirable service to promote sales. I’d also be willing to bet Amazon or Buy,com ships more in one day than a shop that specializes in home automation does in 3 full months or more.
Does it suck? Sure! But please don’t try and get us to believe they are the only web reseller to charge return shipping.
If you buy a defective surround sound receiver from a big box store on the highway are you telling me the come and pick it up from your house or is it YOUR responsibility to bring it back to the store? How about realizing you purchased expired food from the grocery store does the A&P dispatch someone to collect it from you?
YES huge mail order / web stores do offer postage free returns. The volume of their business makes it affordable and often a desirable service to promote sales. I’d also be willing to bet Amazon or Buy,com ships more in one day than a shop that specializes in home automation does in 3 full months or more.
Does it suck? Sure! But please don’t try and get us to believe they are the only web reseller to charge return shipping.[/quote]
I think you make some pretty good points. However, I did not go to pick this product up. I had it delivered to my house and paid for the delivery fee. Also, I never said they were the only reseller to charge return shipping but it is in the minority. It also begs the question, why buy from these sites anymore if you are going to have to pay return shipping?
Mailing anything is a chore, paid or not and especially so when having to go through the P.O.
Question about the Micro Switch. It looks small enough to fit within the escutcheon plate of a ceiling fan, will it?
Also, could it be wired to the forward/reverse direction switch so as to change the fan’s direction for summer/winter?
You also make some valid points… In the end consumers have choices to make when they spend their hard earned money. I can only respond with one final comment… When buying from humongocorps you’ll never get the kind of support that a smaller specialized reseller can offer. It really comes down if you feel the support provided is worth the extra expenses.
People have spoken many times in the past…
Town Book Stores
Mall Record Shops
Corner Video Stores
Local Hardware Shops
All gone… Heck even the big highway versions that put the small time shops out of business are well on their way to obsolescence thanks to Amazon & Walmart. In the end we get cheaper prices but at a cost.
In the end wether you want to believe it or not WE ALWAYS PAY the money doesn’t come from the company nor does it come from the stockholders and it most certainly doesn’t come out of thin air. Some places are just able to hide it better than others.
Just like when uneducated people brag about a BIG tax refund! Morons, the only thing you GOT was a repayment of a 0% loan YOU were dumb enough to give the government. Next time someone wants to give a 0% loan PLEASE PM me, I’d be all over it!
Brief review: OK, so I got some of these today (the energy reporting appliance version) and installed one of them. The size is reasonable for a standard j-box. The terminal blocks on the power side seem adequately sized. I used it with #14 solid. I would think that it would work with #12 as well (keeping load <1200W of course). If using #12 I would recommend splicing in a short piece of stranded so you don’t put too much stress on the terminal blocks which are undoubtedly soldered right on the circuit board.
The control side has smaller terminal blocks and recommends #18. This should be OK since it’s just low voltage control.
Pairing worked easily and the switch functions fine as expected. I’m super happy to keep my standard toggle switches - never cared much for the fancy varieties…
The device is marked as UL listed as are the instructions, which i had not expected.
These products are a gread idea and even though they aren’t cheap, they are comparable in cost with other z-wave receptacles and lamp modules with greater flexibility (I can use with whatever switches / receptacles I want, such as tamper resistant or biceptacles. (www.biceptacle.com).
I couldn’t help myself - I took the cover off of one to check it out. Photos are attached.
The power terminal blocks appear to be a welink F11-C-5.0 which are only rated up to 14AWG. The current rating on the terminal blocks and relay are both 15A, but I’m not impressed by the thick, somewhat uneven trail of solder along the high current path of the PCB, but at least they did something other than just the printed strip.
The yellow block is a capacitor between the neutral and line. I assume this is for shunting of high frequency current.
Overall I’m still statisfied with the quality.
Now ASI needs to offer a volume discount for orders of 10+!
NICE posts thanks for the write up and yes I’m anxious to utilize these in several locations where I have old wiring not knob n tube old but think BX style metal outer casing with cloth shielded conductors inside… If I had to put a date on em… 40’s or 50’s … Needless to say just moving the wires in a switch causes the ‘insulation’ to crumble… Also those metal switch boxes are TINY so my idea was to decommission the switches place one of these in the fixture where I hope to find more room and or better wire or both I do know that in both cases no neutral was found in the switch … Aka power to the fixture wiring.
