[quote=“ghost, post:14, topic:195259”]Z-Wave Everspring Indoor/Outdoor Motion Detector SP816 - Gen5
I went with the everspring one, the philio one went to the back.[/quote]
Where did you find the Everspring available? I would like to replace my SP103s with SP816s…
I have a Kaipulek motion sensor. It?s pet immune but not rated for outdoor.
I have it under a long porch and it?s working fine since April. I use it to trigger camera screenshots and turn on additional lights.
Never had a false alarm, and we have some animals visiting the garden during the night, since I?m near a forest.
Battery seems to be ok, let?s see how well it does during the winter. I don?t know if it?s available in US.
The everspring sensors:
https://www.vesternet.com/z-wave-everspring-indoor-outdoor-motion-detector-sp816-gen5
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0798P8CCQ/?coliid=IES4C5S0L68FL&colid=2I7JD68J7QEJE&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
In the UK. Hope it helps. Its really good. Used it for more than a year now, it is above my car and picks up all movements. When movement is detected, my raspberry pi plays a beep sound in the house, which can be heard outside. Movements when in night mode also plays out a voice saying ‘movement detected in the front’ next to my bed. I have a video of me chasing an intruder who went to try my car door. I sleep better knowing that no one can come near my house without me knowing
I am not going to disagree. Keeping someone out of my house is definitely important. I am not as concerned about keeping them off my property. While the area I live in is within city limits, we do have a fair number of deer and other creatures visit our property fairly frequently, and I am just not anxious to be woken up by them. For me, turning out outside lights has worked quite well. I do understand that everyone has different perceptions of what the optimal security for their own situation is.
I should also say that I do like the idea that I can utilize the z-wave signal from my motion sensors so that if I did want to trigger a more aggressive alarm, such as turning on the siren outside my house, or the one just outside my bedroom, I could do that. But for now, those are just not on my radar. Turning on all the outside lights around the house simultaneously is enough for my needs.
Based upon the recommendation made by REKEMP10, I decided to get a Vision ZL7432US relay and try it out. I was so pleased with the way it worked, I got two more and converted other motion sensor lights at my house to use it.
I am attaching a wiring diagram that shows both how to use the ZL7432US and the original version with the ZL7431US, along with a couple of pictures showing what I did.
When the relay is added to the Vera, it will add a device called, by default, Appliance_Module. You can rename this to something more appropriate. After accepting this device, it will later add two additional devices, Appliance_Module_1 and Appliance_Module_2. For me, the first one represented the red wire on the relay, which will trigger when the motion sensor triggers. The second one represents that yellow wire, which is used to turn the connected lights on and off. Again, you can rename these to something that makes more sense.
I should mention that I got in touch with the company where I bought these because they were out of stock for a few weeks. I was told they believe that the ZL7432US is being discontinued, and will be replayed by a new model sometime in the next few months. They think that the wiring of the replacement relay will be the same, and the size should also be similar. However, until the new version actually comes out (assuming it does), all of that is speculation.
Finally, as I said before, I do realize that these inexpensive motion sensors tend to generate more false alarms than others. Frankly, I do not care about that. I am using them to turn the lights on outside my house for a few minutes. If they turn on a few extra times during the night, that is no big deal to me. I would much rather have the lights come on more often than not. Within the last two weeks, a neighbor’s car was broken into. My hope is that if the lights come one when someone approaches my cars, then they will leave my cars and my house alone. If the lights come on for a few minutes because of a breeze, that does not matter to me. Of course, I understand that everyone has different needs, so you all need to make your own decisions as to how appropriate these inexpensive motion sensors are for your own application.
[quote=“ghost, post:14, topic:195259”]There are several outdoor motion sensors available now. Here are a few:
Z-Wave Steinel IS 140-2 Motion Sensor
Z-Wave Everspring Indoor/Outdoor Motion Detector SP816 - Gen5
Z-Wave Philio Motion Sensor PSP05 - Gen5
I have the last 2 and they work well. I tested the 2 to see which will be better for the front of the house. I went with the everspring one, the philio one went to the back.[/quote]
But you never tested the Steinel IS 140-2 with a Vera product ? Anyone can confirm such would work on a Veraplus ?
[quote=“ghost, post:24, topic:195259”]The everspring sensors:
https://www.vesternet.com/z-wave-everspring-indoor-outdoor-motion-detector-sp816-gen5
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0798P8CCQ/?coliid=IES4C5S0L68FL&colid=2I7JD68J7QEJE&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
In the UK. Hope it helps. Its really good. Used it for more than a year now, it is above my car and picks up all movements. When movement is detected, my raspberry pi plays a beep sound in the house, which can be heard outside. Movements when in night mode also plays out a voice saying ‘movement detected in the front’ next to my bed. I have a video of me chasing an intruder who went to try my car door. I sleep better knowing that no one can come near my house without me knowing[/quote]
I still have not been able to find the Everspring SP816s in North American frequency.
I have a problem changing device options on a Philio psp05 motion sensor, my controller is a Vera secure (UI7). After changing the value of the sensitivity, waking up the device with the inside button and a click on “configure node right now”, my controller gives following messages : “please wait getting secure classes” or “getting the manufacturer” or a third one i don’t remember. Is there a solution ?
Still looking…
I had the same issue, couldn?t find any cheap outdoor z wave motion sensors (just the sensor). I purchased the goconrol WAPIRZ-1 motion sensor. Even though it?s not advertised as an outdoor motion sensor it can operate in temps at -15C which is fine enough for me. I recommend this motion sensor as long as it?s not directly exposed to rain. Plus they usually go on sale for $23 on zwaveproducts.com.
I put one of these relays inside my motion detector box and it works very well. I wanted to add to the information in this thread in that if you want to enable your motion lights-- both from the motion detector and/or from a Vera command, you must attach the red wire (load wire) coming from the relay directly to your lights (load). You must also attach the blue wire from the relay directly to the hot main wire (along with the relay black wire). As I found out through trial and error, the blue wire takes in power and then routes power to the yellow and red wires, that in turn, power the connected electric devices.
The green wire is a sensing wire and when it is energized, the relay senses the current, then the zwave status changes and the relay then routes current to the yellow and red wires, current that is obtained from the blue wire.
Has anyone tried the ZOOZ S2 Motion Sensor: Zooz Z-Wave Plus S2 Outdoor Motion Sensor ZSE29 VER. 2.0 (Battery or U - The Smartest House?
That is clone of the Everspring I have been looking for. Would bet Everspring manufactured them. The price is right. I will order one in a few days and test it out…
i bought a couple for my other house, but have not had a chance to test them yet. Will post as soon as i get them installed.
Installed 3 of them last night. They are identical to the Everspring SP-816- the model number on the bottom even ends in 816. My goal was to replace my three Everspring SP-103s (300 series zwave) with Z-Wave Plus for better battery life and signal reception. And since the Zooz ZSE29/Everspring SP-816 is the same form factor as the Everspring SP-103, I just swapped them out, re-using the mounting bases from the SP-103s.
The first one paired on the first try, the other two took multiple attempts. They pair as generic, show up with a useless On and Off button, and aren’t usable (IMHO) until you manually adjust via: How to Manually Configure Your ZSE29 Outdoor Motion Sensor on Vera - Zooz Support Center No big deal, other than having to find the link in their support page, but didn’t have to do this with the previous SP-103s.
They seem to work as well as the old models. Right now I am having a small issue with the LED - they are not going into Normal mode, they seem to be stuck in Test mode, which really doesn’t matter much to me, but I have a ticket open with Zooz. (I intentionally left the dials in test mode, as I want 24x7 coverage - after 10 seconds with the tamper switch compressed it ought to go to Normal, but the LED is still lighting with motion). And one of them seems to be more sensitive than the one it replaced, and I may have to re-aim slightly so as not to trigger on passing car traffic, which may be a good problem to have (more sensor range)…
Thanks for the info @Wilme2. I am curious as to your evaluation on the durability of the sensor.
I see the items manual has some warnings about installing in open area not covered from moisture and the sun.
What is your overall opinion on its durability and how long do you think this sensor will last for you?
Thanks.
[quote=“Jamr”]Thanks for the info @Wilme2. I am curious as to your evaluation on the durability of the sensor.
I see the items manual has some warnings about installing in open area not covered from moisture and the sun.
What is your overall opinion on its durability and how long do you think this sensor will last for you?
Thanks.[/quote]The previous sensors are under awnings, and have been in service for 2 years without a problem other than roughly a 2-3 month battery life…
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[quote=“wilme2, post:37, topic:195259”]Installed 3 of them last night. They are identical to the Everspring SP-816- the model number on the bottom even ends in 816. My goal was to replace my three Everspring SP-103s (300 series zwave) with Z-Wave Plus for better battery life and signal reception. And since the Zooz ZSE29/Everspring SP-816 is the same form factor as the Everspring SP-103, I just swapped them out, re-using the mounting bases from the SP-103s.
The first one paired on the first try, the other two took multiple attempts. They pair as generic, show up with a useless On and Off button, and aren’t usable (IMHO) until you manually adjust via: [url=http://www.support.getzooz.com/kb/article/220-how-to-manually-configure-your-outdoor-motion-sensor-on-vera/]http://www.support.getzooz.com/kb/article/220-how-to-manually-configure-your-outdoor-motion-sensor-on-vera/[/url] No big deal, other than having to find the link in their support page, but didn’t have to do this with the previous SP-103s.
They seem to work as well as the old models. Right now I am having a small issue with the LED - they are not going into Normal mode, they seem to be stuck in Test mode, which really doesn’t matter much to me, but I have a ticket open with Zooz. (I intentionally left the dials in test mode, as I want 24x7 coverage - after 10 seconds with the tamper switch compressed it ought to go to Normal, but the LED is still lighting with motion). And one of them seems to be more sensitive than the one it replaced, and I may have to re-aim slightly so as not to trigger on passing car traffic, which may be a good problem to have (more sensor range)…[/quote]
Funny, having the exact same issue. On mine, the LEDs light up no matter if it is on test mode or not.
On one of mine, after making a slight adjustment, the sensor is no longer in test mode. On one of the others, as soon as I made an adjustment, the whole adjustment screw fell out and I had to retrieve. After putting it back in, I can tell the time to alert has changed, but it is still in test mode - now just showing the LED every 30 seconds.
While I like the other Zooz products, these re-badged Everspring 816s aren’t high quality items. So if you buy them, know that ahead of time.
And that’s exactly my beef with all these (cheap) sensors…I expect a battery life of at least 1-2 years. I know it depends on usage off course, if the sensor is mounted on busy spot where it triggers 100x per day…
My current outdoor sensors are Visonic, coupled with the Visonic Powermax Pro and with the plugin onto Vera. Works flawlessly too.
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