Where are the occupancy switches?

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Somewhat new to this… but I am baffled there are not occupancy sensors built into ANY switch. These are so common now Home Depot has a dozen different units. Yet, there is not a single one with a Z-Wave interface?! WTF… please tell me I am missing something (and please don’t point at there are separate Z-Wave motion detectors).

Thanks,
Roy

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[quote=“rwalker, post:1, topic:171385”]Somewhat new to this… but I am baffled there are not occupancy sensors built into ANY switch. These are so common now Home Depot has a dozen different units. Yet, there is not a single one with a Z-Wave interface?! WTF… please tell me I am missing something (and please don’t point at there are separate Z-Wave motion detectors).

Thanks,
Roy[/quote]

SO many things I want to be implemented in Z-Wave that hasn’t happened yet, the market is still limited. This is an easy one though, there are external occupancy sensors but no simple IR and Z-wave remotes yet and you can buy programmable remotes at the check out line in drug stores now.

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By occupancy sensors are you referring to motion detectors? There are a number of Z-wave motion detectors available, for example:

[url=http://www.smarthome.com/12677/HomeSeer-HSM100-Z-Wave-Multi-Sensor/p.aspx]http://www.smarthome.com/12677/HomeSeer-HSM100-Z-Wave-Multi-Sensor/p.aspx[/url]

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I am going to pick a HSM100, but ideally I would like to see a switch with a HSM100 integrated into it, or something equivalent (if it had the temperature sensor that would be bonus!).

I guess I need to start being disappointed… :wink:

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I am sure we will see these in due time but second the occupancy sensor. I would love to see more options for contact inputs and relay outputs. A chime module would also be a nice add on too.

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The Intermatic CA9000’s description is: "Passive Infrared occupancy sensors are designed to sense the motion of objects or bodies that are radiating heat. "

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[quote=“rwalker, post:1, topic:171385”](and please don’t point at there are separate Z-Wave motion detectors).

Thanks,
Roy[/quote]

Is it that you want an all-in-one unit so that you don’t have a motion detector AND a light switch?

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Yes.

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I agree, how hard is it for someone to put a motion sensor into a zwave light switch, I don’t want a separate huge ugly battery operated occupancy sensor and/or door sensor to know when my guests/cleaners/robbers etc. leave my vacation rental!

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I’m hearing the HSM100’s eat batteries quick. I too am looking for something that can detect motion to turn a light on, but turn it off automatically when motion stops.
How are people doing this? For example I want my bathroom light to come on when I walk in, dim to a preset level but also go off on its own when there is no motion.
Right now I use a regular security motion sensor, but the wireless z-wave ones have that delay where it won’t trip until it sits for a couple minutes…how are people having their systems sense occupancy?

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While this won’t work for those without security systems, but I have a motion sensor connected to my security system and I use the status of that to trigger vera to turn on my lights. That way I have a conventional (non battery powered) motion sensor, instant response, and vera’s ability to only activate it when it’s dark outside…

Of coure the security panel could have done all of this by itsself. but I like how vera does z-wave better.

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I have 8 of them and the batteries last about 6 months. I can live with that, especially with rechargables. What you’re hearing may refer to the malfunction of new types that some (including me ) are having “lock” in the motion position. In that status it will use the batteries in just a few days. It is a known issue and hopefully will be rectified in upcoming firmware.

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pgrover516, what do you mean by “lock” in the motion sensor?

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Yes I want to know how Leviton can find a market for pricey Enocean wireless and indoor solar powered (!) occupancy sensors but there’s not one regular old occupancy sensor switch that fits in a regular one gang switch box for z-wave, or anything else that I currently know of. It would solve about 70% of my personal z-wave wishlist.

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I mean that in the UI it shows motion (red running man) and gets stuck in that position after a day or so of function

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A Z-Wave switch is big and there is a lot going on in there. Likewise with a motion detector. It would be difficult and expensive to cram both into a package that would fit into a regular gang box.

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I use the CA9000s in my bathrooms to control the fan and the light. The fan and light are on a delay. Any motion resets the delay. My real problem with the CA9000s is battery life. Also, they are big, obtrusive and look like TV cameras to my kids.

I hope that marketing persons reads this board and gets a hint on what is needed - an independent combination of a switch (or dimmer) and an occupancy detector. The occupancy detector should send the occupancy report back to the controller to make the determination if the switch should be turned on.

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Thread Revival., Any Switch/Motion combo’s out yet?

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I would like to see the same thing!!