Website redesign

[quote author=micasaverde link=topic=4504.msg24279#msg24279 date=1285873037]
CMRancho, I’m sorry you’re so disappointed with everything we do. There’s some conflicting requests here. Keep in mind our team doesn’t have web designers; we always contract out that stuff. We only have coders on staff. We always hire the best design team we can. In this case, for the new micasaverde.com website we hired a highly rated U.S. design agency to do everything here on-shore. So far we’ve gotten very positive feedback on the site.

You’re right that we didn’t pull our developers off our core product (Vera) to have our internal staff do QA testing on the micasaverde.com site. We left it to the design agency. But, that’s because we want our core developers to stay focused working on our product. Don’t you agree that’s the right priority?

As far as your complaints… Some of them seem valid. But many are just matters of opinion and there are opinions the other way.

For example, your #1 complaint is that you can’t tell which lights are on and which are off. In the UI, lights that are on have a bright yellow light bulb icon, lights are off have a dim, gray one. Most people we talked to thought that was a good way to see what’s on and off. You obviously disagree and think that instead of reflecting this status in the icon, we should have changed the “active” color of the action buttons. To be honest, we discussed this, and, again, the majority thought it was more intuitive to have a consistent ‘selected’ state to a button (ie the green lit button).

As far as the other complaints, we discussed many times where to put the toolbox and mios market panels and discussed moving them to the bottom. But, the majority in our focus group felt it was better to keep them in a fixed place but make them collapsable so you can hide them if you don’t want to see them. So that’s what we did. As far as the save, yes, we did discuss doing iframes to make the banner at the top with the ‘save’ button stay visible at all times. But that meant there was more scrolling to see your devices when you’re on a small netbook with limited screen size.

I appreciate your feedback. But, since most of the items are matters of personal opinion, I don’t think it’s fair to blast us over them.

As far as reliability… Whenever we have a customer with a system that crashes, that is always #1 priority and we stop everything else. Two weeks ago, on a Friday afternoon a customer in Mexico reported that when he setup 2 Vera’s with separate Z-Wave networked across a bridged ethernet network with more than 100 devices, the unit ran out of memory and crashed. We had 2 programmers come in over the weekend and work 12 hour days both days and by Monday morning, we had a new firmware for him that fixed the issue. So, while many of the subjective complaints you make, like the green buttons, etc., do go into the suggestion box and aren’t always acted on, that’s not a sign of horrible customer service. That’s just because we know we can’t please everyone and if we change it other people will complain. When it comes to crashes, occasionally customers have run into a reproducible or persistent crash where his Vera is down and won’t come up. To my knowledge, in every case, we have had all programmers stop everything and work overtime until the problem was fixed, and I’m not aware of any customer that has been stuck in that situation for more than a day or two. Bottom line is that we’re doing the best we can…

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@micasaverde, Welcome back! :wink:

A couple of things I noticed about the new web site:

Typo in heading on page http://www.micasaverde.com/list-of-apps.php: “UNRELEASED BETA PULG-INS”.

Encoding issue in SPECS tab of http://www.micasaverde.com/vera.php: “Operating temperature 0?~40?” (No, wait, they really are question marks, but there’s probably an encoding issue once those are replaced with degree signs.)

The “PRODUCTS” “SUPPORT” “WHERE TO BUY” links across the top: Strongly suggest that you get some JS to preload the hover versions of those buttons, so that they don’t take a second to load when the user first points their mouse at them.

Those same buttons don’t have alt text, so the page is difficult to navigate if images are turned off or if the user has a text-to-speech reader on their web browser. In the US you have this law called Section 508 that requires accessible websites; the web designers that you contracted should know all about it.

The page has an empty title: . Every web page should have a title (also, Section 508 again).

The Flash animation on the front page doesn’t have a fallback image, so it doesn’t look classy on iOS devices. Actually, there are any number of slight rendering oddities on mobile Safari; you should get your web designers to look at the page on an iPad.

All

I think that this topic should be moved from the “Vera Setup & Usage” topic to a blog topic. I just come to this topic search for ways to fix things so my Vera works the way it was designed to. I understand the coding needs to be a part of this but bashing the website and support in this forum is totally unproductive and somewhat destructive.

I think that there should be a blog topic that allows users to vent frustrations and that MCV understands them as such. It would be a barometer of community frustration level for MCV and allow them to understand and work to eliminate user frustration. Both sides of the argument are right here… and the outcome should be an improvement to the overall user experience. There is a huge silent majority out here watching all of this.

To continue the blog…
MCV is a customer oriented company and should understand that it is impossible to explain away a customers frustration. Broken code and vendor supplied services need to be managed and dealt with effectively by MCV or Vera’s future is’t going to be too bright.

Thanks…
Darrell

Why move it? I just posted to say had anyone noticed it, and thought it looked like a nice change; then everyone started to complain about it. This forum is for support of Vera itself really, not their website!

Understood…

The website upgrade is welcome :D… and the website is part of our ownership experience.
I’ve built a few amateur websites and the process involves constantly honing the code to perfection. Extra eyes can really improve the process…

I also have seen some minor glitches and would provide improvement requests with but I don’t want to post them here…

LOL… just a runaway post…

Indeed, there’s a spelling issue in that image, it will be corrected right away!

I use my browser in UTF8 encoding and those chars are looking right to me.

This was already requested from the web design agency we contracted.

You’re right about that law and we have customers which relies on text-to-speech even to control Vera, so it will be a good thing to have. I will suggest it.

What page doesn’t have a title? Please let me know so it can be fixed.

Since we paid for it, we will make sure every aspect is taken care of.
Thanks for posting all of this cause it will make the website better and easier to navigate.

[quote=“dlwertz57, post:23, topic:166682”]I think that there should be a blog topic that allows users to vent frustrations and that MCV understands them as such. It would be a barometer of community frustration level for MCV and allow them to understand and work to eliminate user frustration. Both sides of the argument are right here… and the outcome should be an improvement to the overall user experience. There is a huge silent majority out here watching all of this.

To continue the blog…
MCV is a customer oriented company and should understand that it is impossible to explain away a customers frustration. Broken code and vendor supplied services need to be managed and dealt with effectively by MCV or Vera’s future is’t going to be too bright.[/quote]
We will try to put together a blog in the near future and see how is that coming along (not the board section in the forums), but a separate blog.

[quote="futzle, post:22, topic:166682"]Encoding issue in SPECS tab of http://www.micasaverde.com/vera.php: "Operating temperature 0?~40?" (No, wait, they really [i]are[/i] question marks, but there's probably an encoding issue once those are replaced with degree signs.)[/quote] I use my browser in UTF8 encoding and those chars are looking right to me.

The pages should be self-announcing their encoding through the Content-Type HTTP header. That header is coming back from micasaverde.com as:

Content-Type: text/html
Perhaps it should be:

Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
That way the browser won’t have to guess, because it looks like my browser is guessing UTF-8 on some pages and ISO-8859-1 on other pages. This can definitely be configured in the Apache+PHP web server that you use.

What page doesn't have a title? Please let me know so it can be fixed.

http://www.micasaverde.com/ (the start page). All the others are good.

Thanks for fixing the other bugs I reported.

I’m on IE8 on Windows XP Pro - No scroll bars on the MCV site - Can’t see anything except pretty pictures of happy people controlling everything from the couch. Oh and there is grass growing in the house. Why do some get scroll bars and others do not?

mcvovidiu,
You on it today! You’re the man.

Hey so i was wondering what Browser were the Web designers contracted to?

I am glad that it works with older versions of IE. as most cutomers with a PC will have IE.
But what a pain for the other browsers. Maybe we need to go back to the basics so the site is agnostic to browser. The folks that complain that the site is not flashy enough will have to deal. I prefer a site that navigates well and quick over a flashy slow site. Time is money.

What resolution is your screen set to? My XP Pro / IE8 combo works fine, scroll bars and everything (thank you Microsoft).

As far as changing the website now, forget about it. MCV has better things to do and better things to spend their money on. Can we just move on, helping them with minor fixes, and leave them alone to do what they need to do to make Vera improvements???

Agreed. Close the thread. Oh, before you do.

Thank you micasaverde for your personal response to my post.
I look forward to the resolution this weekend.

JOD.