I have it reversed. I have all the apps and logic on the main vera 3 unit. I also have the motion sensors (to keep latency down), scene controllers, and door locks on the main Vera 3 unit (about 20 devices).
All other 120 Z-Wave devices (switches, door sensors, window sensors, siren, energy meters) are on the slave unit. The slave unit only has 4 plugins (3 will show on the master/parent) to keep it 100% focused on Z-Wave devices.
that’s a good approach. Mine is all about geography, having separate detached guesthouse and poolside cabana house. I just could not get those zwaves over from the main house. Then I unloaded the apps to keep things moving well on the primary.
a lot of options with bridged units.
I’m still having difficulty. Today I’m going to do a hard reset on the secondary and essentially start over from scratch. I suspect having some things still installed on the secondary when I incorporated it is not right approach.
And I’ll try Buddha this time. 
I gave up thrice and went to MCV.
A hard reset and re-add was apparently the ticket. I was able to get the unit added to the master, able to install an APP in the secondary, in this case the DSC Panel, and have it and all the associated zones appear in the master. I have yet to try configuring it for the PLEG and removing the one in the master but it looks like its going to be straightforward. Organizing it will be a bit strange but i’ll get used to it, especially since full control is available in the master.
Thanks for the help, hand holding and Hail Marys 
Congrats! It took me a bit to figure out how I wanted to arrange with various rooms, etc.
Thanks for the help, hand holding and Hail Marys :)
It may have been the call to Buddha. :o
An update on this effort:
I successfully tied the two together, I can and control the secondary (Vera Lite) from the primary (Vera 3) As an experiment I set up some functions on the secondary: Ping Sensor and DSC Alarm Panel. My “plan” was to move all non-ZWave functions to the secondary for the time being. I settled on a naming convention for everything that is not on the primary by prefixing the name with “S1_” for secondary-supported functions.
I use the Ping Sensor to alert me when some of the functions in the house are down, for example the IP address of the DSC Alarm Interface, the SysLog, the Blue Iris camera server, etc. When these go unavailable for a period I use VeraAlerts to send me an SMS. The DSC Panel interface seems like a good candidate for relocation also.
I see that when I added the Ping Sensor to the secondary it was duplicated in the master. However, when I changed the name in the secondary to include the prefix (S1_) it was NOT replicated on the master … I had to change them manually over there as well. Similarly when I installed and configured the DSC Panel the default zones were created and replicated but when I added additional zones, changed them to “motion” zones as called for in the DSC Panel docs and renamed them (S1_) the additional zones were replicated to the master but the name changes were not. (In addition I had to change the Alarm Panel interface IP on the secondary to something other than the actual address to avoid conflicts with the live one installed on the master — apparently only one panel interface is allowed — resulting in a “Lua Startup” failure as expected )
So what I’ve learned so far is that it does indeed work but names (and I suspect possibly other configuration changes) are not replicated from the secondary to the master.
More later
John
Right, I didn’t mention the thing about the names. it seems odd to be but probably intended to proven prevent collisions when you bridge.
Great progress.
thank goodness for editing
Right, I didn’t mention the thing about the names. it seems odd to be but probably intended to proven collisions when you bridge.
Great progress.[/quote]
Good point, I hadn’t considered the collision/duplication problem
Now that I’ve got the secondary Vera running is there a simple way to import all the users? I have a bunch of users setup on the primary for notification purposes only and I want to move the VeraAlert Plugin to the secondary and along with it all the notification functions. But there doesn’t seem to be a straightforward way to copy the users from one Vera to the other. And it does not look like the secondary gets the notification information of the primary and vice.
Nope
Nope[/quote]
I’ve been fiddling with the idea of offloading applications to the secondary Vera system and so far I’m a bit disappointed in the outcome. For example I installed the ImperiHome plugin on the secondary hoping to use some of its features in conjunction with the alarm system plugin that still resides in the Master Vera along with a PLEG that manages the alarm, notifications, etc.
One thing I tried was to use ImperiHome’s voice function and have the primary control tablet “speak” to the user when arming/disarming the system. The PLEG performs a number of functions when the user arms the system from the tablet so I tried including the speech function in the “Advanced” section of “Actions” in the arm sequence only to find that no-one of the ImperiHome functions see available across the two Veras.
Obviously I could move the entire alarm control functionality to the secondary, which I may still do, but then may lose access to some of its capabilities in the Master Vera (for example I’m using the alarm system door sensor state to control the front entry hall overhead light, I found it was every bit as quick responding as the dedicated Vera sensor I had been using)
MCV obviously designed it to allow networking ZWave devices and probably internal scenes, triggers, schedules etc across multiple Veras but had no way to predict how all of the plugin functionality would play in that environment so it’s not a surprise.
[quote=“AgileHumor, post:17, topic:180905”]All devices on the slave will show on the master.
If any devices are plugins, those plugins will be installed on the master if they don’t already exist. The logic will run on the slave but for the device/buttons/json to be controllable on the parent…the plugin must be installed.[/quote]
All–
To use PNP on the master and slave Vera do they need to be on the same network?
Where I live I’m stuck with 3Mb DSL. I have two of them to improve network performance but they have two different IP addresses and two different routers. If I put one Vera on each network can I use PNP across the networks.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Don
Why do they have to be on separate networks? Pick one and put them both on a Ethernet Hub/Switch on the same LAN.
I do so sympathise with that, I was stuck with around 2Mb until this week, but just got fibre to the house and now get bursts up to 1Gb. Can’t tell you how different that makes things!
He would need a Dual WAN router, I think. If he can put both of the current routers in bridge mode it should work.
While a dual WAN router would be nice he can simply connect the two Veras on the SAME LAN. I don’t understand what two WANs have to do with anything? The Veras don’t have to be on different WANs, they don’t care.
I have a Vera 3 and a Vera Lite logically bridged on the same LAN one at IP XXX.XXX.XXX.115 the other at XXX.XXX.XXX.116. works fine
And, I also have second WAN to the house but strictly as a fallback, its a COMCAST 6MB WAN vs my “normal” uVerse 24MB WAN.
I was simply replying to his current situation of two networks, and that its probably not necessary (or desirable).
[quote=“clippermiami, post:38, topic:180905”]While a dual WAN router would be nice he can simply connect the two Veras on the SAME LAN. I don’t understand what two WANs have to do with anything? The Veras don’t have to be on different WANs, they don’t care.
I have a Vera 3 and a Vera Lite logically bridged on the same LAN one at IP XXX.XXX.XXX.115 the other at XXX.XXX.XXX.116. works fine
And, I also have second WAN to the house but strictly as a fallback, its a COMCAST 6MB WAN vs my “normal” uVerse 24MB WAN.[/quote]
Hi clippermiami
The dual wans hopefully will provide more reliability and allow me to access the vera z-wave network through either wan. Mediacom is my ISP and it’s down very often. I can’t reboot the router and modem remotely. The vera is located in vacation property where a visit takes 5 hours round trip.
Thanks for your help.
Don
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