two questions for owners of GE 45602 lamp module

1 - once the load-sensing feature has been turned on, it is my understanding that the module will toggle itself to ON when it senses that the attached incandescent lamp has been turned on (on the lamp itself). But when the lamp is turned off, does the module toggle itself OFF?

2 - does anyone use it with a 3-way lamp (e.g. with a 50/100/150 W bulb) and are there any known issues, either in general or with the load-sensing feature? Does anyone have a 3-way lamp that they would be willing to connect up for a few mins to test?

Neither question above was resolved via a forum search or by consulting the product documentation.

Thanks

  1. I don’t know of any load-sensing devices that will turn the device off.

  2. Using a 3-way bulb should be fine, assuming you don’t exceed the capabilities of the module (multiple lights, wattage, etc). Obviously, you would just have to set it at a level, and retain on/off/dim for that level. It may or may not be a good idea to rapidly change the 3-way state of the bulb, but the manual doesn’t state anything about that.

Thanks - so re: answer #1 - if I understand your response correctly, that means that if the module is “ON” but someone then turns the lamp off, the module stays “ON” and still reports “ON” back to Vera, so you have no idea whether the lamp is really off or not. That’s counterintuitive and not good - curious why the module would not exhibit the same behavior for the ON->OFF transition that it does for the OFF->ON transition.

If the module did ON->OFF and OFF->ON you would never be able to turn it off manually.

Assume the module is off and lamp is on.
Turn lamp off and then on → Module turns on.
Now if you turn the lamp off, and the module goes off…great. But you can’t turn the lamp back on manually again b/c the module would auto turn on again. So you are stuck with a lamp that is manually turned off, or always on.

They could around this by adding in delays, etc…but realistically, modules and most devices are pretty dumb, and only react to commands and simple state changes. Nothing more, nothing less. They don’t have a “history” built in.