This looks interesting AND they’re going to offer professional install…if you want it.
It looks beautiful - just like everything they do. And they’re saying it’ll be released by July.
If we’re going to set up a pool, put me down for Q4 2013.
This will solve a lot of people’s problem of how do I control my shades via iPad. For those of us hanging on to Vera, their Z-Wave to RTS Bridge hopefully will be available before that.
@CMRancho good call on extending the delivery date…
doesn’t the words “professional installation” automatically add about 3k to the price?
Probably but you don’t HAVE to have it professionally installed. I read this to mean that they will eventually have technicians that can (for a price) help with any issues and also “Pro’s” to report common bugs to the manufacturer, hopefully they will respond to issues quicker (or in the case of MCV…at all).
Engadget had a video showing the system off. It looks pretty darn nice. However the price does not look that nice. A basic system starts at around 2000. From what the rep said, you can not just get the controller.
- Garrett
$2000 is a retail, installed price and includes other things like a lamp module or two. I also think it includes the Z-Wave to RTS bridge, but may not (as not everyone will have RTS devices).
CES was a soft launch, hopefully we’ll have more concrete pricing in the coming months. Hopefully they’ll make the RTS/Z-Wave bridge available to other gateways like Mios/Vera, as it stands now it will be a Tahoma item…
oh yeah, be aware they aren’t doing locks with this system (lighting, motion, shades, thermostats, etc. only). They did promise simple conditional logic for scenes as a consolation prize.
This is pretty much vaporware right?
I can’t find anything about purchasing this on their website and I even filled out a “contact us” form there requesting info and haven’t gotten a response. I’ve heard nothing about this anywhere since CES in January.
It’s too bad. I really liked the videos I saw of the slick demos at CES.
Somfy runs a bit slow on releasing things sometimes. I should be on the Beta Team for Tahoma and the Z-Wave to RTS Bridge and I haven’t heard a thing about getting one. I’d be very disappointed if they forgot about me since I’d be the perfect person to put it to the test (being up to my neck in Z-Wave devices and shades). I know they have been testing it internally and continue to show it.
I’ll see if I can get an ETA for you, then I’ll add 6 months to that date and post it here. (kidding Somfy don’t be mad).
Thanks for the info Shady. I’m very new to all of this and don’t own any automation stuff yet. But I’m planning a big remodel and will most likely go with using exclusively z-wave devices for home automation if I can find everything I need.
Shade control for standard windows and skylights will be pretty important to me and it looks like Somfy has some straightforward solutions, albeit expensive.
(BTW I got your PM, but when I try to reply I get “An Error Has Occurred! You are not allowed to send personal messages” and I don’t see who I can contact to get this fixed. maybe I don’t have a required minimum post count yet???)
DANNER,
Sorry I forgot to look at your # of postings. I will PM you my email so you don’t fill up some area of the forum with 25 blank posts
The good news is that Somfy will be sending me a Tahoma and ZRTSI to testing, the bad news is this means it is still in testing. Somfy does have some great solutions and motorized shades can be expensive (esp. skylights), but there can be ways to value engineer things. It may be possible to have several adjacent shades driven by one motor, but typical residential has windows spaced apart. You can motorize the important windows and get manual rollers to match in less used areas (and later these can be converted to motors - link - htttp://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=7319.0 ).
I’ll do my best to sort out the ETA for this stuff.
Is ZRTSI really still being testing? Maybe it’s just Tahoma. I see ZRTSI being sold here : http://www.av-outlet.com/en-us/dept_175.HTML
Please. I’m very interested in Automated shade control and it looks like you may be the guy to ask!
Is ZRTSI really still being testing? Maybe it’s just Tahoma. I see ZRTSI being sold here : http://www.av-outlet.com/en-us/dept_175.HTML[/quote]
Well somebody’s sales rep has some ‘splainin’ to do! and there are instructions! now I’m pissed . We lost a really great Somfy sales rep a while back, seems like the new one isn’t measuring up.
Well I wonder why it says it supports the multi-level switch class, when it shouldn’t support percentages of open/close. It looks like it populates 16 nodes, then you can go back an remove the nodes you don’t use.
man, at 2 or 3k I would jump on it if it’s stable.
MCV Vera cost me that much alone in time trying to get it to work…
Is ZRTSI really still being testing? Maybe it’s just Tahoma. I see ZRTSI being sold here : http://www.av-outlet.com/en-us/dept_175.HTML[/quote]
Well somebody’s sales rep has some ‘splainin’ to do! and there are instructions! now I’m pissed . We lost a really great Somfy sales rep a while back, seems like the new one isn’t measuring up.
Well I wonder why it says it supports the multi-level switch class, when it shouldn’t support percentages of open/close. It looks like it populates 16 nodes, then you can go back an remove the nodes you don’t use.[/quote]
Well the ZRTSI shown on that website is not shipping yet and it may be that the ZRTSI isn’t going to be offered outside of the Tahoma system. The way Z-Wave handles blinds is typically like a dimmable light, and lights don’t have a “stop” associated with them so there is something special Somfy is doing between Tahoma and the ZRTSI to allow for a stop. The real question (which I will try to answer soon) is if you can move the Somfy RTS blinds with a slider control and the ZRTSi would make that possible.
If you want to get your RTS shades integrated into Vera then using the Somfy Blind Plug-In and Somfy URTSI connected via USB-to-serial RS232 is the way to go right now. This will give you up/stop/down and a second push to the stop sends the shade to its “My” position. iVera’s shade controls work well with the child devices created by the plug-in, but SQ Remote’s and Home Buddy’s controls need some adjusting as they are geared for Z-Wave motor controllers that support the sliding control and percentages.
Shady, have you gotten any further in your testing with these new Somfy Z-Wave products? I have been in contact with the National TaHomA Sales Manager to answer some of the same questions you have posed here… I am hoping she will get back with me soon, as I am in the middle of evaluating/purchasing a new primary controller. (Savant vs HAI vs Vera 3 vs HomeTroller-Mini) I really am a DYI type of guy at heart, but I really just want a stable control system…
Do you know if the TaHomA controller’s Z-wave chip supports “Beaming”? It doesn’t seem like a very “Total Home Automation” controller if it does/can’t support Z-wave locks!
Really looking forard to getting some Somfy Shades installed in my place soon, any help you could offer in making these decisions would be great!
@Jacobly unfortunately I haven’t gotten much further in my testing of Tahoma. Work has been very busy, but I am in contact with probably the same Somfy person you are talking about. As you mentioned, Tahoma will be limited in the beginning and will not support locks, but mainly lights, thermos, and motion (shades too of course). I don’t think it will be available to the DIY crowd directly, and it officially supports
only the brands and devices it is sold with (Cooper, Leviton, Evolve, etc).
I’d be happy to help with shading knowledge or advice, just send me a PM.
Let us know what you find out about using Savant or HAI with your existing Z-wave stuff.
pb : cela ne fonctionne pas en Europe,
pas la meme frequence RTS en Europe et aux USA