Smoke Detector Detector

No, I don’t have a stutter. I’ve been frustrated with the lack of a z-wave smoke detector that uses the US z-wave standard. I’ve been trying to figure out an option for doing this, and thought that maybe I would just keep my normal smoke detectors, but rig something to detect the state of those smoke detectors.

I happen to have a smoke alarm and CO detector system that has an interconnect wire that goes between all of the smoke detectors so that if one alarms, they all alarm. I read that the alarming detector will put a 9V signal on this interconnect line. So, I bought a 9V relay ($1.50 on ebay model JQC-3F) and wired it to an Aeon Labs wireless door sensor that I sacrificed for this project. I liked the idea of using the Aeon door sensor because then I didn’t need to worry about power outages or running new wiring. The door sensor reads in normal state when nothing is going on and tripped state when I connect the load wires of the relay to a 9V battery. I’m planning to plug it into one of my detectors, when my kids aren’t all asleep, to make sure it works properly.

I am not an electronics guru and this is a total hack job. I’m just wondering if anyone has any opinions as to why this might be a bad idea or why this might somehow actually cause my house to burn down or something similar.

Actually I find it a good idea.

A minimum of 55 euro for a zwave smoke detector. Compared to cheaper mainstream one with a zwave sensor. Makes sense.
But after intensive searching (fibaro universal sensor) and a traditional smoke or co detector with an “external signalling” option, I gave up. Now I plan to buy zwave detectors.

But… if your option works… it’s worth investigating the total cost.

Only drawback… you can not differentiate “which detector dtected”… it’s all or nothing…

Shrubber, I think this is a Great idea, and wondered about doing the same.
I’m thrilled to see you try it first. :slight_smile:

The advantage to this method is you gain ZWave notification of ALL your smoke detectors, which is significantly less cost than replacing every one with a new ZWave smoke detector.

I wasn’t aware that the third-wire inter-detector signalling was 9v. If you can, might want to put a scope or at least DVM to see what the signal looks like. If it’s a digital signal between detectors (doubtful) or something lightweight (no drive strength), then you might have to boost the current with a switching transistor before it can activate a relay.

Looking forward to your test results. I see that the Schlage Door/Window sensor also has a pair of screw terminals inside for dry contact, so that’s a second option.

Not only can you sense these … If you Supply the 9Volts via a Z-Wave relay … to the third wire you can signal your smoke detectors. Voila … whole house alarms! I do it!

I don’t know if the third-wire signaling is universal, but USI offers a dry-contact relay adapter for this purpose:
Universal Security Instruments USI-960 Relay

Followup?

Bump any follow-up on this?