'Simplest' 3-way switch

I think I’m getting closer :slight_smile:

So your 4 way - is actually 3 switches, and they are either all “old school” or all z-wave, you cant have a single z-wave device and then 2 regular? Assuming I’m right that they are all z-wave, that means each light is going to cost at least $100 bucks to “zwave” unless I go with an alternative method (like the momentary switch).

I guess I’m just having sticker shock as I was thinking one zwave switch per light was going to be enough.

Johnnyv, just curious which zwave switches did you use?

Perhaps I missed something else, can a cheaper slave (non-zwave), e.g. http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-VP0SR-1LZ-Digital-Matching-applications/dp/B001HSYT3S/ be used with more expensive master? http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-Vizia-VRS15-1LZ-Switch-Z-Wave/dp/B001HT0PB2/ref=pd_sim_hi_1

Many of the z-wave switches that support 3 way wiring will require a companion / auxiliary switch that is a fraction of the cost of the z-wave. This was mention in previous posts. So for example, if you go with a Leviton z-wave switch, you’ll need the corresponding auxiliary switch to go with it that will cost around 15 dollars for each one. When it comes to 3-way, 4-way, and more, it can get expensive, but home automation is not cheap in the first place. What I believe nullx8 is trying to say (based on what I can gather from the posts) is that you can use regular momentary switches that will be used with say a fibaro or aeon microswitch. So all you need is the one microswitch (z-wave).

  • Garrett

all Z-wave… no they won’t all cost that much . if every time you buy a switch for other locations, you but the 3-way combo. only 5 Bucks more… you will accumulate (45610’s)… use them anywhere…

as for mixing old school with z-wave…

hmm may be possible… I’d have to draw a schematic, to verify, but, the aeon labs:

Aeon Labs Aeotec SC19103-ZWUS Z-Wave Micro Smart Energy Illuminator

Aeon Labs Aeotec DSC27103-ZWUS Z-Wave Micro Illuminator

Might be a possible “possible” solution. . NOT sure. Honestly, it’s past my bedtime, and, I’d have to really draw it out…

but if you are doing the whole house z-wave, like i said if every time you buy a switch for other locations, you but the 3-way combo. only 5 Buck more… you will accumulate (45610’s)… use them anywhere…

any help? — wont answer till tomorrow some time… :frowning:

That is if you go with GE. I am not a fan of the GE switches and spend the extra money with buy Leviton for many reasons. Quality is better, I like the look, and it supports instant status.

  • Garrett

Since I’m initially only ‘z-waving’ 3 or 4 lighting areas the Leviton seem like a good start.

So to confirm for a room with a 3-way switch (non dimmer) I would buy:
http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-Vizia-VRS15-1LZ-Switch-Z-Wave/dp/B001HT0PB2/ref=pd_sim_hi_1 (Master)
http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-VP0SR-1LZ-Digital-Matching-applications/dp/B001HSYT3S/ (Remote)

For a room with a dimmer:


[quote=“nullx8, post:11, topic:175609”][quote=“Freakin, post:9, topic:175609”][quote=“nullx8, post:3, topic:175609”]The main trouble you have in a “old” house is that you not have the ground wire avaiable to serve the modules.
The technican can simply execute this task “put neutral wire in all switch-boxes” with no explaination ;)[/quote]
minor correction, you need a neutral wire in most places to serve the modules.[/quote]

ain’t that exactly what i wrote ? :)[/quote]

Sorry I’m functionally retarded at times :smiley: I somehow missed your second sentence and thought you said you only need a ground in each box, not a neutral.

Sorry to repost, but was going to put an order in tonight… does this look correct?

[quote=“fsa317, post:25, topic:175609”]Since I’m initially only ‘z-waving’ 3 or 4 lighting areas the Leviton seem like a good start.

So to confirm for a room with a 3-way switch (non dimmer) I would buy:
http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-Vizia-VRS15-1LZ-Switch-Z-Wave/dp/B001HT0PB2/ref=pd_sim_hi_1 (Master)
http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-VP0SR-1LZ-Digital-Matching-applications/dp/B001HSYT3S/ (Remote)

For a room with a dimmer: